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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Aug 6^th, 2016 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/477620-should-we-ban-the-pikers-destin... oh the butthurt sentinel users. you should all kill yourselves. kfanxbai

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3511 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #1 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 12:53pm	Print Post
	Quote: please disable peoples options because of my opinion X and Y no i think that is a bad idea because i can prove that opinion X and Y are factually incorrect you are butthurt am i understanding this thread correctly

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #2 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 1:16pm	Print Post
	Sorta. tldr: US is shit. people who play in it are generally shit. end of discussion

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #3 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 1:50pm	Print Post
	Good troll.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #4 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	Mr Reilly wrote on Aug 6^th, 2016 at 1:50pm: Good troll. why? Does your server not get a lot of gimps in US thinking theyre better off in US than actually doing damage in a better ed?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #5 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	I've used it. I needed the Rez SLA to carry a MoD PUG back when that first came out.

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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #6 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 2:25pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 6^th, 2016 at 2:00pm: why? Does your server not get a lot of gimps in US thinking theyre better off in US than actually doing damage in a better ed? We generally focus on knowing how to play the game. I use it in MoD to give myself 10k HP for insurance to make that swim. Suppose the difference would be that when I get to the other side, I can solo the room if nobody else makes it.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #7 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	Mr Reilly wrote on Aug 6^th, 2016 at 2:25pm: Suppose the difference would be that when I get to the other side, I can solo the room if nobody else makes it yeah. That is an exception. Some builds like warlock can also do very well in US. On my server we get pure wizards in US that couldn't solo thier way out of a wet paper bag

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #8 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	Posts in that thread are ... surreal. Like not from this game. That's why basically same bunch of people have been raiding and getting shit done last few years. And half the server including every shitty player plays the same retarded ES warlock in Sentinel build. If someone can't be arsed to bring their best, they can go fuck themselves.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5977 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #9 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Aug 6^th, 2016 at 3:03pm: Posts in that thread are ... surreal. Like not from this game. That's why basically same bunch of people have been raiding and getting shit done last few years. And half the server including every shitty player plays the same retarded ES warlock in Sentinel build. If someone can't be arsed to bring their best, they can go fuck themselves. this. Fucking amateurs,

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #10 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 4:40pm	Print Post
	The OP is schizophrenic. He uses "ban the fucking pikers to solo play only" as his thread subject and yet later claims "the groups i do lead i allow anyone in but that's not the point of this discussion." Well in all the excitement I guess I missed the point, since he doesn't even seem to have one, or at least not one he can stick with.

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Slug Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1061 Joined: Feb 19^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #11 - Aug 6^th, 2016 at 11:48pm	Print Post
	It's nice that his first post lets you know that any rational argument will be completely disregarded.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #12 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 12:44am	Print Post
	Slug wrote on Aug 6^th, 2016 at 11:48pm: It's nice that his first post lets you know that any rational argument will be completely disregarded. nah, 98% of people that show up in US shouldnt be in it. Aside some corner cases described by 5 and reilly, or a warlock. so many badsies trying to justify being in US. also nice sun titan avatar. that thing is a staple in bazaar dredge i used to cash many dailies with on modo before i stopped playing.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Slug Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1061 Joined: Feb 19^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #13 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 1:47am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 12:44am: nah, 98% of people that show up in US shouldnt be in it. Aside some corner cases described by 5 and reilly, or a warlock. so many badsies trying to justify being in US. also nice sun titan avatar. that thing is a staple in bazaar dredge i used to cash many dailies with on modo before i stopped playing. I guess I'm just out of the loop since I haven't pugged since I came back to DDO. Didn't realize people were using US like that. So while he may have a point, I still think the idea of banning US is crazy. Just recognize the signs of a noob and move on. Besides, I'd hate to see what would break if they tried to program a "solo-only" destiny. I don't know shit about bazaar dredge. I use Sun Titan in EDH, there's a lot of useful stuff he can recur.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9989 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #14 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 2:21am	Print Post
	I like being in Sentinel with my rogue... because survivability... and because DPS wise, Shadowdancer wouldn't help much ( Rapier Mechanic ). My little piker rogue on the other hand is in Shadowdancer, because Crossbow DPS. Depends on the build and what you want to do with it. TLDR : Nice troll (been age since we had decent trolling topics, this one almost does it)

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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3511 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #15 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 5:53am	Print Post
	one of the most important features of ddo is that they allow you the freedom to make decisions that result in your character sucking. once you start picking and choosing what levels of suck are acceptable you open the up the floodgates to predetermined builds and in its most evolved state- the end of user made builds. this is the ground work for game/dev provided builds that dictate what options you are allowed to consider. id rather have a few useless people to carry than having everyone pigeonholed into one of 9 community mandated builds that are hard coded to be your only options due to whiners on the shithole. options should never be eliminated regardless of how bad those options are. that is why we have consequences- to guide your decision making process and educate those who make poor ones. to eliminate bad choices eliminates creative and analytical thought.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #16 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 9:40am	Print Post
	Slug wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 1:47am: think the idea of banning US is crazy. I don't agree with banning it, lol. But it's crazy to me that people think something like LD won't increase their dps by that much because they'll die. US isn't really adding that much survival through prr that it outshines 70 melee/ranged power. I would say that LD>>US if US was allowed 48 destiny points instead of 24. Slug wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 1:47am: I don't know shit about bazaar dredge. I use Sun Titan in EDH, there's a lot of useful stuff he can recur. EDH is dope online but I hate free for all and prefer 1v1. Format is really broken online because the ban list is very different from paper. Also, I never played paper. here is the list I made to top 8 a classic premier online. classic was like a mix of vintage and legacy before vintage came online. http://i.imgur.com/4wH2jZC.png Flav wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 2:21am: I like being in Sentinel with my rogue... because survivability... and because DPS wise, Shadowdancer wouldn't help much ( Rapier Mechanic ). My little piker rogue on the other hand is in Shadowdancer, because Crossbow DPS. LD.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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[some shit] Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 378 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #17 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 10:07am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 9:40am: I don't agree with banning it, lol. But it's crazy to me that people think something like LD won't increase their dps by that much because they'll die. US isn't really adding that much survival through prr that it outshines 70 melee/ranged power. I would say that LD>>US if US was allowed 48 destiny points instead of 24. As someone using THF, blitz is borderline useless anyway. All I use LD for is haste, more action boosts and crit bonuses. Like, I can't keep blitz stacks, even if I'm using spamming 5 cleaves ffs.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #18 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 2:21am: Rapier Mechanic Rapier...Mechanic. You're right, no ED will help that. It needs a reroll. eighnuss wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 5:53am: one of the most important features of ddo is that they allow you the freedom to make decisions that result in your character sucking. once you start picking and choosing what levels of suck are acceptable you open the up the floodgates to predetermined builds and in its most evolved state- the end of user made builds. this is the ground work for game/dev provided builds that dictate what options you are allowed to consider. id rather have a few useless people to carry than having everyone pigeonholed into one of 9 community mandated builds that are hard coded to be your only options due to whiners on the shithole. options should never be eliminated regardless of how bad those options are. that is why we have consequences- to guide your decision making process and educate those who make poor ones. to eliminate bad choices eliminates creative and analytical thought. Pretty much.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9989 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #19 - Aug 7^th, 2016 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	eighnuss wrote on Aug 7^th, 2016 at 5:53am: one of the most important features of ddo is that they allow you the freedom to make decisions that result in your character sucking. once you start picking and choosing what levels of suck are acceptable you open the up the floodgates to predetermined builds and in its most evolved state- the end of user made builds. And another point tied to how characters are built in DDO is the fact that there's not one and only one way to reach the same effectiveness.

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #20 - Aug 8^th, 2016 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 6^th, 2016 at 1:16pm: Sorta. tldr: US is shit. people who play in it are generally shit. end of discussion He's not wrong.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #21 - Aug 8^th, 2016 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Aug 6^th, 2016 at 2:00pm: why? Does your server not get a lot of gimps in US thinking theyre better off in US than actually doing damage in a better ed? yes


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #22 - Aug 8^th, 2016 at 2:02pm	Print Post
	What sucks most about Sentinel is it doesn't give enough defense for the offense you lose.


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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3511 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #23 - Aug 8^th, 2016 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	theres 2 problems in this thread first is the fact that people want to remove your ability to suck. the end game of this goal is that everypony uses the same exact 9 available builds as dictated by the software itself the 2nd of which is the nature of the op, here. its a cartmanesque "totally awesome choice one" vs totally gay as balls on balls choice two" you are automatically gay for even considering choice two, before you even know how to compare the actual choices against one another fuck all these threads

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos Reply #24 - Aug 8^th, 2016 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	eighnuss wrote on Aug 8^th, 2016 at 6:41pm: before you even know how to compare the actual choices against one another US is bad every single time. 400 hp and 10prr, unless youre stalart s/b. LD gets you 30 prr, 50 hp, 25% damage reduction boost, haste boost, +1W(1.5 if PA), More boosts, better tactics, 6 seeker, OC, +6 to hit and damage. Cartman>retards in sentinel.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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