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oh the butthurt sentinel users. you should all kill yourselves. kfanxbai
  

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Re: Ban Sentinel ED Mobos
Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 12:53pm
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please disable peoples options because of my opinion X and Y

no i think that is a bad idea because i can prove that opinion X and Y are factually incorrect

you are butthurt


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Sorta. tldr: US is shit. people who play in it are generally shit. end of discussion
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Mr Reilly wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
Good troll.

why? Does your server not get a lot of gimps in US thinking theyre better off in US than actually doing damage in a better ed?
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 2:24pm
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I've used it. I needed the Rez SLA to carry a MoD PUG back when that first came out.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 2:00pm:
why? Does your server not get a lot of gimps in US thinking theyre better off in US than actually doing damage in a better ed?


We generally focus on knowing how to play the game.  I use it in MoD to give myself 10k HP for insurance to make that swim.  Suppose the difference would be that when I get to the other side, I can solo the room if nobody else makes it.
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Mr Reilly wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 2:25pm:
Suppose the difference would be that when I get to the other side, I can solo the room if nobody else makes it

yeah. That is an exception. Some builds like warlock can also do very well in US. On my server we get pure wizards in US that couldn't solo thier way out of a wet paper bag
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 3:03pm
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Posts in that thread are ... surreal. Like not from this game.
That's why basically same bunch of people have been raiding and getting shit done last few years.

And half the server including every shitty player plays the same retarded ES warlock in Sentinel build.

If someone can't be arsed to bring their best, they can go fuck themselves.


  
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Reply #9 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 3:50pm
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Wipe wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
Posts in that thread are ... surreal. Like not from this game.
That's why basically same bunch of people have been raiding and getting shit done last few years.

And half the server including every shitty player plays the same retarded ES warlock in Sentinel build.

If someone can't be arsed to bring their best, they can go fuck themselves.




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Reply #10 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 4:40pm
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The OP is schizophrenic.  He uses "ban the fucking pikers to solo play only" as his thread subject and yet later claims "the groups i do lead i allow anyone in but that's not the point of this discussion."  Well in all the excitement I guess I missed the point, since he doesn't even seem to have one, or at least not one he can stick with.
  

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It's nice that his first post lets you know that any rational argument will be completely disregarded.
  
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Slug wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 11:48pm:
It's nice that his first post lets you know that any rational argument will be completely disregarded.

nah, 98% of people that show up in US shouldnt be in it. Aside some corner cases described by 5 and reilly, or a warlock. so many badsies trying to justify being in US.

also nice sun titan avatar. that thing is a staple in bazaar dredge i used to cash many dailies with on modo before i stopped playing.
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:47am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 12:44am:
nah, 98% of people that show up in US shouldnt be in it. Aside some corner cases described by 5 and reilly, or a warlock. so many badsies trying to justify being in US.

also nice sun titan avatar. that thing is a staple in bazaar dredge i used to cash many dailies with on modo before i stopped playing.


I guess I'm just out of the loop since I haven't pugged since I came back to DDO.  Didn't realize people were using US like that.  So while he may have a point, I still think the idea of banning US is crazy.  Just recognize the signs of a noob and move on.  Besides, I'd hate to see what would break if they tried to program a "solo-only" destiny.

I don't know shit about bazaar dredge. I use Sun Titan in EDH, there's a lot of useful stuff he can recur.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 2:21am
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I like being in Sentinel with my rogue... because survivability... and because DPS wise, Shadowdancer wouldn't help much ( Rapier Mechanic ).

My little piker rogue on the other hand is in Shadowdancer, because Crossbow DPS.

Depends on the build and what you want to do with it.


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one of the most important features of ddo is that they allow you the freedom to make decisions that result in your character sucking. once you start picking and choosing what levels of suck are acceptable you open the up the floodgates to predetermined builds and in its most evolved state- the end of user made builds.

this is the ground work for game/dev provided builds that dictate what options you are allowed to consider. id rather have a few useless people to carry than having everyone pigeonholed into one of 9 community mandated builds that are hard coded to be your only options due to whiners on the shithole.

options should never be eliminated regardless of how bad those options are. that is why we have consequences- to guide your decision making process and educate those who make poor ones. to eliminate bad choices eliminates creative and analytical thought.
  

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Slug wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:47am:
think the idea of banning US is crazy.

I don't agree with banning it, lol. But it's crazy to me that people think something like LD won't increase their dps by that much because they'll die. US isn't really adding that much survival through prr that it outshines 70 melee/ranged power. I would say that LD>>US if US was allowed 48 destiny points instead of 24.


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I don't know shit about bazaar dredge. I use Sun Titan in EDH, there's a lot of useful stuff he can recur.

EDH is dope online but I hate free for all and prefer 1v1. Format is really broken online because the ban list is very different from paper. Also, I never played paper. here is the list I made to top 8 a classic premier online. classic was like a mix of vintage and legacy before vintage came online. http://i.imgur.com/4wH2jZC.png

Flav wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 2:21am:
I like being in Sentinel with my rogue... because survivability... and because DPS wise, Shadowdancer wouldn't help much ( Rapier Mechanic ).

My little piker rogue on the other hand is in Shadowdancer, because Crossbow DPS.

LD.
  

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Reply #17 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 10:07am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:40am:
I don't agree with banning it, lol. But it's crazy to me that people think something like LD won't increase their dps by that much because they'll die. US isn't really adding that much survival through prr that it outshines 70 melee/ranged power. I would say that LD>>US if US was allowed 48 destiny points instead of 24.

As someone using THF, blitz is borderline useless anyway. All I use LD for is haste, more action boosts and crit bonuses. Like, I can't keep blitz stacks, even if I'm using spamming 5 cleaves ffs.
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:39pm
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Flav wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 2:21am:
Rapier Mechanic


Rapier...Mechanic.

You're right, no ED will help that. It needs a reroll.

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one of the most important features of ddo is that they allow you the freedom to make decisions that result in your character sucking. once you start picking and choosing what levels of suck are acceptable you open the up the floodgates to predetermined builds and in its most evolved state- the end of user made builds.

this is the ground work for game/dev provided builds that dictate what options you are allowed to consider. id rather have a few useless people to carry than having everyone pigeonholed into one of 9 community mandated builds that are hard coded to be your only options due to whiners on the shithole.

options should never be eliminated regardless of how bad those options are. that is why we have consequences- to guide your decision making process and educate those who make poor ones. to eliminate bad choices eliminates creative and analytical thought.


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Reply #19 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 2:11pm
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eighnuss wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 5:53am:
one of the most important features of ddo is that they allow you the freedom to make decisions that result in your character sucking. once you start picking and choosing what levels of suck are acceptable you open the up the floodgates to predetermined builds and in its most evolved state- the end of user made builds.


And another point tied to how characters are built in DDO is the fact that there's not one and only one way to reach the same effectiveness.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
Sorta. tldr: US is shit. people who play in it are generally shit. end of discussion


He's not wrong.
  
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why? Does your server not get a lot of gimps in US thinking theyre better off in US than actually doing damage in a better ed?


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What sucks most about Sentinel is it doesn't give enough defense for the offense you lose.
  
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theres 2 problems in this thread

first is the fact that people want to remove your ability to suck. the end game of this goal is that everypony uses the same exact 9 available builds as dictated by the software itself

the 2nd of which is the nature of the op, here. its a cartmanesque "totally awesome choice one" vs totally gay as balls on balls choice two" you are automatically gay for even considering choice two, before you even know how to compare the actual choices against one another

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eighnuss wrote on Aug 8th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
before you even know how to compare the actual choices against one another

US is bad every single time. 400 hp and 10prr, unless youre stalart s/b. LD gets you 30 prr, 50 hp, 25% damage reduction boost, haste boost, +1W(1.5 if PA), More boosts, better tactics, 6 seeker, OC, +6 to hit and damage.

Cartman>retards in sentinel.
  

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