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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #75 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:36am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:19am: The machine where you MAKE the shards doesn't tell you prefix/suffix/extra/slot. It took me about 10 tries to actually find a combination. But, hey, once we get that information worked out. The tool tip on the crafted shard will tell you what item it works on. But only when the shard is in shared bank crafting storage.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9012 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: cannith crafting Reply #76 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 2:08am	Print Post
	Uh fun side-note: unlike the previous system, aug slots do not appear to impact ML. Meaning a yelow-sloted item with an ML 15 shard on it will get the same ML15 bonuses as an item with no augments. Test case: ML 15 belt, no slots, no augments: Strength Shard gave it +8 ML 15 boots with a yellow slot, FF shard: Dex shard gave it... +8

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9012 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: cannith crafting Reply #77 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 2:10am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:36am: The tool tip on the crafted shard will tell you what item it works on. But only when the shard is in shared bank crafting storage. Or when it's in the item machine. Any guesses as to why the fuck they can't just put all that info on the motherfucking shard? My theory: Properly-labeled items killed Cordovan's father.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: cannith crafting Reply #78 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 2:17am	Print Post
	DiePaetus wrote on Aug 13^th, 2016 at 9:15pm: Who the fuck wants to run the shroud 10 times for an item you can craft. I'd really rather do both. L Shroud exists right now as the apex challenge, and it's a bit of a rush to stomp it into the ground with a group of like-minded players. noamineo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:19am: New system is nice. Its a pain in the ass, but once we get the planner updated it'll be easier. Mainly its the fucking lack of information on different interfaces. The machine where you MAKE the shards doesn't tell you prefix/suffix/extra/slot. It took me about 10 tries to actually find a combination. But, hey, once we get that information worked out. Also way too many things require new collectibles. Again its whatever, time will fix that, but for now it's kind of stupid. All in all, it will be positive. Lack of information is pretty much status quo. Currently you can craft a shard without having a clue where you can slot it wrt prefix, suffix, item slot. Only when you're looking at an already created shard in the item crafting interface are you given that information. A bit late to be helpful, since most people don't want to create shards at random and hope they will be able to use them for something, unless they are just trying to level. But the wiki and the crafting tools available help with that, and I expect it'll be the same with NewCC. "Also way too many things require new collectibles. Again its whatever, time will fix that, but for now it's kind of stupid." This is an annoying bottleneck to be sure. With ~500 collectables in the game, and a solid handful that have absolutely zero purpose at all at present, they should have been able to use those to fill in the blanks for NewCC. And almost all of the useless collectables are tier 3 ones, so they aren't terribly prolific anyway. At least leveling doesn't seem to require collectables, just huge piles of essences and probably some XP boosters (run the tutorial for +75% XP BtA pots) and success boosters (the tutorial can also help there, but they are BtC and you only get 5 per life) so people can save them for actually making things.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9012 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: cannith crafting Reply #79 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 2:28am	Print Post
	I have on the order of tens of thousands of essences, so no problem there. I've been hoarding them for quite some time. I think I'll muddle through making what I can when the system goes live, then just hoard collectables until the new planners go online.

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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1811 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: cannith crafting Reply #80 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:35am	Print Post
	Are they going to leave a legacy system anywhere to craft existing effects onto items? Or are all the bits I kept while I was levelling CC worthless now?


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FTL Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 135 Location: In your mind! Joined: Feb 11^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #81 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 11:02am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:19am: New system is nice. Its a pain in the ass, but once we get the planner updated it'll be easier. Mainly its the fucking lack of information on different interfaces. The machine where you MAKE the shards doesn't tell you prefix/suffix/extra/slot. It took me about 10 tries to actually find a combination. But, hey, once we get that information worked out. Also way too many things require new collectibles. Again its whatever, time will fix that, but for now it's kind of stupid. All in all, it will be positive. I think you can search for "Extra, Suffix and Prefix" in the crafting machines for both the shards and the item so that should tell you what can go where. kum-gulp wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:35am: Are they going to leave a legacy system anywhere to craft existing effects onto items? Or are all the bits I kept while I was levelling CC worthless now? The new Cannith Crafting update will completely replace the existing system. Anything left over from the previous incarnation of the system will not work with the new one.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9012 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: cannith crafting Reply #82 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	FTL wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 11:02am: The new Cannith Crafting update will completely replace the existing system. Anything left over from the previous incarnation of the system will not work with the new one. I have about a dozen holy shards that I can say goodbye to

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #83 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 3:02pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: I have about a dozen holy shards that I can say goodbye to Yep. Deconstruct them now while you still can...

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AsstralTraveler Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 24 Joined: Jun 5^th, 2016	Re: cannith crafting Reply #84 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 4:02pm	Print Post
	I just bought the crafting storage upgrade and looked at all my bags and thought, "Do I really have to unload and drag each item to the storage?" So I drag my collectables bag and there they are. Wait, why are there so many Amulets and prayer beads? Stack of 99, WTF, the tiny bag does 1000. Drag my ingredients bag; Shard Shard Shard Shard WTF, at least you got the unload part working. Drag them back and then restock. Overall score for crafting storage 1/3.


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1811 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: cannith crafting Reply #85 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	FTL wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 11:02am: The new Cannith Crafting update will completely replace the existing system. Anything left over from the previous incarnation of the system will not work with the new one. Ok cheers. Another sad little notch on the Don't Bother post when debating returning. :/ Par for the course I guess.


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FTL Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 135 Location: In your mind! Joined: Feb 11^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #86 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 5:01pm: Ok cheers. Another sad little notch on the Don't Bother post when debating returning. :/ Par for the course I guess. Kinda depends on your perspective really, the new system will a lot more powerful based on what I have seen thus far on the mother forums and on Lammania. I think it's just a bit more strict on what can go where.


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: cannith crafting Reply #87 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 3:02pm: Yep. Deconstruct them now while you still can... It's only a shame that the shards that took the most essences to craft, those useless +level ones that took 3 stacks of up to 1500 each to make, can't be deconstructed. Nor can the shards that they haven't even released on Lamma, +enhance shards.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #88 - Aug 14^th, 2016 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:35am: Are they going to leave a legacy system anywhere to craft existing effects onto items? Or are all the bits I kept while I was levelling CC worthless now? They're leaving everyone a middle finger. That's the one Turbine system that's never been buggy.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #89 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:50am	Print Post
	AsstralTraveler wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 4:02pm: I just bought the crafting storage upgrade and looked at all my bags and thought, "Do I really have to unload and drag each item to the storage?"� So I drag my collectables bag and there they are.� Wait, why are there so many Amulets and prayer beads?� Stack of 99, WTF, the tiny bag does 1000.� Drag my ingredients bag; Shard Shard Shard Shard� WTF, at least you got the unload part working.� Drag them back and then restock.� Overall score for crafting storage 1/3. Nothing new here... It was discovered when the shared storage came in game. Some stacks of 10K in bags, became stacks of 1K in your inventory and stayed stacks of 1K in the shared storage. ( when they didn't become stacks of 100 or 50 ) According to The Kobold That Jumped Ship Before Getting Fired this is WAI and bags needs to be fixed to stack the right way.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9012 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: cannith crafting Reply #90 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:31am	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 3:02pm: Yep. Deconstruct them now while you still can... I deconed most of them. Will be keeping a few around for sentimental reasons.

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #91 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:42am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 6:49pm: It's only a shame that the shards that took the most essences to craft, those useless +level ones that took 3 stacks of up to 1500 each to make, can't be deconstructed.� Nor can the shards that they haven't even released on Lamma, +enhance shards. Agreed. I have no issues with the old system going away. It was underpowered and shit for years. But any items from it should be able to be translated into something. Leaving you with stuff you just have to pitch out that you spent a lot of resources on is a poor choice.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9012 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: cannith crafting Reply #92 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	Yeah, not being able to decon the Shards of potential or the +whatever shards is kind of a kick in the head.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1811 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: cannith crafting Reply #93 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 3:08pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 7:25pm: They're leaving everyone a middle finger. That's the one Turbine system that's never been buggy.


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Dustynuts Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 9 Joined: Mar 29^th, 2016	Re: cannith crafting Reply #94 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 2:10am: Or when it's in the item machine. Any guesses as to why the fuck they can't just put all that info on the motherfucking shard? My theory: Properly-labeled items killed Cordovan's father. Shame killed Cordovans father.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #95 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 7:22pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:42am: Agreed.� I have no issues with the old system going away.� It was underpowered and shit for years.� But any items from it should be able to be translated into something.� Leaving you with stuff you just have to pitch out that you spent a lot of resources on is a poor choice. It's a consistent choice. "Snowflake", The Turbine Mascot

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: cannith crafting Reply #96 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 3:11am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:50am: Nothing new here... It was discovered when the shared storage came in game. Yeah, but newly discovered idiocy isn't made any better just because it's old news to some.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #97 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:13am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 7:22pm: It's a consistent choice. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kH1x1mtfg14/VDb2wz9mI0I/AAAAAAACCXk/jBhUusB_otA/s1600/... "Snowflake", The Turbine Mascot LMAO, it's got the Turdbin attitude expressed with the FoS flair, the perfec mascot for them!

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #98 - Aug 20^th, 2016 at 6:35pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 7:14pm: You set the ML, sure.� Turbine sets where the effects fall.� You could end up with a +1 Shock (+1 electric damage on hit)� Diversion (-1 threat) Heartseeker (+1 damage on crit for 2x, +2 damage on crit for 3x, +3 damage on crit for 3x) of Craptasticness. +3, 2d6 any elemental, deception, 4 seeker.

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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: cannith crafting Reply #99 - Aug 20^th, 2016 at 9:00pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 20^th, 2016 at 6:35pm: +3, 2d6 any elemental, deception, 4 seeker What ML? Also, SSOIDH


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