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LurkYouRongTime Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Jun 4^th, 2016	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Aug 10^th, 2016 at 8:04am	Print Post
	I guess I will remove it too then
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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #1 - Aug 10^th, 2016 at 8:05am	Print Post
	platfarmchink wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 7:40am: Look at me, I have found something too obvious. Yes you did Billy. Maybe you wanna retract that post....tho it'll probably be too late for that. Gratz.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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platfarmchink Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 865 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2016	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #2 - Aug 10^th, 2016 at 8:43am	Print Post
	m4lacka wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 8:05am: Yes you did Billy. Maybe you wanna retract that post....tho it'll probably be too late for that. Gratz. Except I didn't post it, it was posted yesterday on the mothership and has 15 replies since. So don't cry to me or just cry moar


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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #3 - Aug 10^th, 2016 at 10:20am	Print Post
	Lol, stupid cunts have to try feel important by 'busting' such a mindless little sploit ........


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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #4 - Aug 10^th, 2016 at 10:42am	Print Post
	Jelly_Muffin wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 10:20am: Lol, stupid cunts have to try feel important Sums it up but... You can still rock in America, Aw yeah all night.

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platfarmchink Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 865 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2016	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #5 - Aug 10^th, 2016 at 11:16am	Print Post
	The thread just got cubed therefore self-cubing this one


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #6 - Aug 10^th, 2016 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	LurkYouRongTime wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 8:04am: It can be farmed like Crucible was possible before, same mechanics, run it twice to get ransack, then let it reset and you can run it infinite times for same exp without ransacking. I also play on Sarlona but haven't noticed this... What time of the day does it happen? Is it recent thing (I am on short leave last few weeks)? Cool.

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #7 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 2:45am	Print Post
	platfarmchink wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 8:43am: Except I didn't post it, it was posted yesterday on the mothership and has 15 replies since. So don't cry to me or just cry moar

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #8 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 3:47am	Print Post
	platfarmchink wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 8:43am: Except I didn't post it, it was posted yesterday on the mothership and has 15 replies since. So don't cry to me or just cry moar Well, fuck.� Since it's already known by Turbine, why not let us clueless newbies know about it here?� Seem like there's no harm now that they have cubed their own forums to suppress whatever info might have been shared.� Why let their suppression of information be reflected here? Bang on! I don't really give a fuck.� I miss out on exploits with regularity and don't care.� Exploiting is to me a fringe activity that I might participate in, but only if I'm sure that the benefits outweigh the costs.� But mostly I'm clueless about the exploit culture and so don't even have any opportunity to exploit, lol.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3511 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #9 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:17am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 3:47am: Well, fuck.� Since it's already known by Turbine, why not let us clueless newbies know about it here?� Seem like there's no harm now that they have cubed their own forums to suppress whatever info might have been shared.� Why let their suppression of information be reflected here?� Bang on! I don't really give a fuck.� I miss out on exploits with regularity and don't care.� Exploiting is to me a fringe activity that I might participate in, but only if I'm sure that the benefits outweigh the costs.� But mostly I'm clueless about the exploit culture and so don't even have any opportunity to exploit, lol. how is this shit news to anyone? a feature existed the most efficient method of use became widespread that single instance is modified to be inefficient everyone assumes the initial feature is gone not only does this explain why anyone who learned something regarding this current issue is either behind the times or just plain gay and retarded but it also gives an explanation for why you DONT do what you are suggesting. as soon as you 'tell the clueless noobies' you enter stage 2 of the list above. the widespread and rampant use must be addressed. the most important reason to NOT desire things to get fixed is because FUTURE implementations of game design might have great chemistry with existing holes, if they can last long enough. that is the real reason that NOT sharing is caring. there are NUMEROUS toys that at one time were pretty useless but following years of 'good design' have become very enjoyable game mechanics which would have been a sin to lose before their prime. design must attempt to prevent existing exploits. however an exploit that 'doesnt exist' can not be considered nor circumvented.

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platfarmchink Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 865 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2016	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #10 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 12:24pm	Print Post
	eighnuss wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:17am: how is this shit news to anyone? a feature existed the most efficient method of use became widespread that single instance is modified to be inefficient everyone assumes the initial feature is gone not only does this explain why anyone who learned something regarding this current issue is either behind the times or just plain gay and retarded but it also gives an explanation for why you DONT do what you are suggesting. as soon as you 'tell the clueless noobies' you enter stage 2 of the list above. the widespread and rampant use must be addressed. the most important reason to NOT desire things to get fixed is because FUTURE implementations of game design might have great chemistry with existing holes, if they can last long enough. that is the real reason that NOT sharing is caring. there are NUMEROUS toys that at one time were pretty useless but following years of 'good design' have become very enjoyable game mechanics which would have been a sin to lose before their prime. design must attempt to prevent existing exploits. however an exploit that 'doesnt exist' can not be considered nor circumvented. The biggest problem with this one in particular is Haywire is in a public space. Whereas Crucible, you could just go anonymous and nobody except your guildies would see you entering/exiting constantly.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #11 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 12:29pm	Print Post
	The Crucible is dead. Long live The Crucible.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9989 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #12 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 3:02am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 12:29pm: The Crucible is dead. Long live The Crucible. No we say that it has been Crucibled. It's not the first time something in Crucible is fixed/changed. It probably won't be the last.

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nowAvaultie Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #13 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:11am	Print Post
	Well, if it's Haywire that they fixed, I honestly don't understand why. Sure, it's several/a few thousand xp each time, but is farming this really worth the time? I've known you could do this for a long, long time and I never bothered with it because doing it is a pain in the ass to me. Maybe it's worth doing for those people where xp/min is the only consideration. For me, entering a quest, defeating three elementals, and recalling in order to get fast xp/min is just boring and stupid. I play the game to have fun and, while leveling is part of the fun, worrying about xp/min is not fun. So, for those people who used this, I'm sorry it was "fixed" (if it was "fixed"). Doesn't affect me either way, but I don't think that the people who "exploited" this (it's not even an exploit, in my opinion) should be denied the ability to do this if they find it worthwhile.

	OldCoaly wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:27am: If one of those types of weapons isn't "wraps", then it's a non-starter for Fran.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #14 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:37am	Print Post
	nowAvaultie wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:11am: Well, if it's Haywire that they fixed, I honestly don't understand why. Sure, it's several/a few thousand xp each time, but is farming this really worth the time? I've known you could do this for a long, long time and I never bothered with it because doing it is a pain in the ass to me. Maybe it's worth doing for those people where xp/min is the only consideration. For me, entering a quest, defeating three elementals, and recalling in order to get fast xp/min is just boring and stupid. I play the game to have fun and, while leveling is part of the fun, worrying about xp/min is not fun. So, for those people who used this, I'm sorry it was "fixed" (if it was "fixed"). Doesn't affect me either way, but I don't think that the people who "exploited" this (it's not even an exploit, in my opinion) should be denied the ability to do this if they find it worthwhile. It's actually not faster than Spies or Wiz king in XP/min. I got 170k this weekend on EH spies daily run (not first run) in 10 min(including optionals. That's 17k per min. The Von4 run was 7.6k per run with a run time of around 45 sec. The recall, reset, re-enter, run there was longer than the killing, but it's faster than my wail/implosion's cool down timer. Spies is almost twice as fast. With 3 competent tower soloer's, you get similar XP earn on Wiz King.


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nowAvaultie Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #15 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:37am: It's actually not faster than Spies or Wiz king in XP/min.� I got 170k this weekend on EH spies daily run (not first run) in 10 min(including optionals.� That's 17k per min.� The Von4 run was 7.6k per run with a run time of around 45 sec.� The recall, reset, re-enter, run there was longer than the killing, but it's faster than my wail/implosion's cool down timer.� Spies is almost twice as fast.� With 3 competent tower soloer's, you get similar XP earn on Wiz King.� � Thanks for this information. I wasn't sure how good the xp/min is for those quests versus the optional in the beginning of Haywire. It's nice to know it's not faster. And that makes them doing something to fix it even less logical. Of course, this is Turbine we're discussing; the company whose forum monkey handed me an infraction for simply posting a character's name change and the name of two of their alts (and, literally, no other information).

	OldCoaly wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:27am: If one of those types of weapons isn't "wraps", then it's a non-starter for Fran.
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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #16 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:57am	Print Post
	XP/minute doesn't matter much if it is happening while I'm enjoying bbq with the fam.

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #17 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	Toke wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:57am: XP/minute doesn't matter much if it is happening while I'm enjoying bbq with the fam. I think the reason why people have been doing Cruci, Lava Caves or Von 4 is getting xp WHILE not playing the game ?


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nowAvaultie Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #18 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:06pm: I think the reason why people have been doing Cruci, Lava Caves or Von 4 is getting xp WHILE not playing the game ? OK. So what? If they're using some macro program that they're not supposed to, there's already rules and consequences for that. If Turbine can't figure out that someone is using a macro program they're not supposed to, then that's Turbine's problem. I still don't see how people doing that negatively impacts my enjoyment of the game. To me, that's not much different than buying an Otto's box. Either way, you're not playing the game and the end result is the same: you get leveled up faster and, potentially, get bored faster. And even if those people weren't doing this, there's no guarantee they wouldn't get bored by getting xp the usual way.

	OldCoaly wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:27am: If one of those types of weapons isn't "wraps", then it's a non-starter for Fran.
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #19 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	nowAvaultie wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:21pm: I still don't see how people doing that negatively impacts my enjoyment of the game. Didn't say it does. I read your posts and it looked like you thought that those in front of Von 4 were actual players. At least I hope I am right. Hope there aren't people doing it manually lol.


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nowAvaultie Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #20 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:27pm: Didn't say it does. I read your posts and it looked like you thought that those in front of Von 4 were actual players. At least I hope I am right. Hope there aren't people doing it manually lol. Well, to be honest, I did. I'm not much into macro'ing or automating things like this. And I don't really have a good way to tell if they are or aren't actually playing. I did notice it seemed like some people were there an awful lot, but I don't spend a ton of time there watching people, either. I still think Turbine is trying to solve a non-problem. They'll probably fuck it up, anyway.

	OldCoaly wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:27am: If one of those types of weapons isn't "wraps", then it's a non-starter for Fran.
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #21 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 3:40pm	Print Post
	Oh it is the one I knew about. I'll find a different way to tip over a level when I'm a few hundred XP short then.


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #22 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 3:53pm	Print Post
	nowAvaultie wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:21pm: If Turbine can't figure out that someone is using a macro program they're not supposed to, then that's Turbine's problem. Turdbin's ultimate goal is to make the game so grindy that all the players replace themselves with bots that WB can't tell from actual customers, giving Turdbin a large stable "base" that never complains and serves WB as a marketing mailng list for their constant stream of new mobile crap�

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #23 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:06pm: I think the reason why people have been doing Cruci, Lava Caves or Von 4 is getting xp WHILE not playing the game ? Pretty sure you are making the same point I was. Comparing xp/min on stuff I have to run to stuff I don't have to run is silly.

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PersonaNonGrata Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1063 Joined: May 3^rd, 2015	Re: Sarlona XP bots busted Reply #24 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	nowAvaultie wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:21pm: OK. So what? If they're using some macro program that they're not supposed to, there's already rules and consequences for that. If Turbine can't figure out that someone is using a macro program they're not supposed to, then that's Turbine's problem. I still don't see how people doing that negatively impacts my enjoyment of the game. To me, that's not much different than buying an Otto's box. Either way, you're not playing the game and the end result is the same: you get leveled up faster and, potentially, get bored faster. And even if those people weren't doing this, there's no guarantee they wouldn't get bored by getting xp the usual way. All perfectly rational and reasonable arguments ... that have no place in any discussion about Turbine. Yes, it is a non-issue, but that is the Turbine way.


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