Flav wrote on Aug 20^th, 2016 at 1:11am:

And this is a new thing how?

I'm not saying it is a good thing, but it is exactly the same as the current CC system.  I've melted every single item since I was about 10th level on my first life.  I am not skill capped in the current CC system.  I'm close, but not capped.  I could have said back then "I'm new so CC is not for me", and I'd have a lot more plat which is fairly useless and I'd not be near the level cap.  And I'd have a few less items which have been reasonably useful to me across a few TRs and a few characters.

So while a new player today won't be able to craft much, NewCC is just as viable an option for them to work on while they build their character as CC was for me when I started playing.

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Fk crafting just bribe a crafter.

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I dunno, it seems like you might even be able to get by with half that many.

FTL wrote on Aug 21^st, 2016 at 6:07am:

This and possibly the amount of collectibles required (depending on their actual rarity in game) are the two main things they're screwing the new system with in my opinion.

The big advantage the new RNG loot system has and in theory the new CC system should have over the old RNG system and old CC crafting are the insightful slot options.  It's not as if insightful stats are uncommon on new RNG loot so why make adding insightful stats to the new CC items require a costly/rare component?

If you exclude using duped ingredients from consideration, the amount of normal ingredients required to level crafting in DDO (in the old and new systems) should be more than enough of a grind and gatekeeper.  All they are doing by making PEDs required for the majority of the good stuff is rewarding dupers who stockpiled.

Can't say I'm surprised Turbine has done this though.  They haven't even bothered to go back and fix some of the glaring issues that still exist with their new RNG system so why expect them to make the new CC system useful without stupid amounts of artificial roadblocks. 

Revaulting wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 1:06pm:

I usually have a Maul just for oozes and rust monsters. Why not craft an Everbright one with Greater Ooze Bane on it?

Revaulting wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 1:45pm:


They are a pain in the ass to collect.  Limited to a few classes or second life characters who decide to put the GS mats into a Trap the Soul item.  And Turbine had an excellent opportunity to make the useless ones have a use while they were tweaking their collectables tables, and so of course they dropped that ball before even being aware that there was a ball game going on.

I wonder if there's anyone working at Turbine who is even aware that there are a good half dozen or so collectables that have absolutely zero use?  And either all of them or almost all of them are the T3 level collectables.  Yet another perfect opportunity to make something that just clogs up people's bag useful, and yet another decision (if they are even are aware of this, which I tend to doubt) to create something new instead of finally attaching a use to something that already exists.

Meursault wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 2:44pm:


Most of the OCD hoarders who remember how useless Festivult Twigs became highly desirable during the first ice games.

harharharhar wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 5:03pm:


FTFY