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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Online All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8929 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	2-augment, loot-gen items? Aug 26^th, 2016 at 11:08am	Print Post
	I have several with a yellow and a colorless; does anyone know if there exist randomly-generated items with a yellow and a green augment slot?

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #1 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 11:16am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 26^th, 2016 at 11:08am: I have several with a yellow and a colorless; does anyone know if there exist randomly-generated items with a yellow and a green augment slot? I had a colorless+green for a while. But the effects were not that strong and I got rid of it. I think yellow+green existed and thought I saw one linked once, but, I could be mistaken.


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	No.

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nowAvaultie Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #3 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	No, I don't think you can get an item with two colored augment slots on it. I know for sure yellow and green doesn't happen. I looked a while ago for the same thing and learned that the hard way.

	OldCoaly wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:27am: If one of those types of weapons isn't "wraps", then it's a non-starter for Fran.
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slowertraffic Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 67 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2010	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #4 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	anyone know how the augment slots work with the new crafting? I remember hearing somewhere that they no longer increase the min level of the item, even when slotted.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Online All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8929 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #5 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 3:57pm	Print Post
	slowertraffic wrote on Aug 26^th, 2016 at 3:03pm: anyone know how the augment slots work with the new crafting? I remember hearing somewhere that they no longer increase the min level of the item, even when slotted.� � My testing on lama indicated that the augment would set an AML, but the existence of the slots would not. So like if you made an ML15 shard and put it on an item, it would be an ML 15 item, instead of ML17 under the old system. So quick and simple example: A cloak with +1 Charisma, old system by itself it'd be ML1 with no augment slot and ML3 with a colorless slot. Under the new system it would still be ML1, unless you put an augment in it that had a higher ML.

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slowertraffic Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 67 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2010	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #6 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	thanks. that is good to know. wish I had more double-slot items. Those are going to be mighty. Do they still drop? I don't remember seeing one in quite some time.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Online All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8929 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #7 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	I've seen them recently. They are rare but not mightily so.

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Pseudonym Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 340 Location: Under the metaphorical rock Joined: Nov 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #8 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 11:05am	Print Post
	slowertraffic wrote on Aug 26^th, 2016 at 4:10pm: Do they still drop?� I don't remember seeing one in quite some time. As far as I know, they do not drop in the new loot tables.


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RolyPoly Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 56 Joined: Dec 15^th, 2011	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #9 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 11:38am	Print Post
	I have been searching end rewards, chests, and the AH/ASAH for the past few weeks. Other than the occasional one on the ASAH, I haven't seen any drop in several hundred chests / end rewards.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #10 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 12:03pm	Print Post
	It is my understanding they are no longer in the loot tables.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #11 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 12:09pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 12:03pm: It is my understanding they are no longer in the loot tables. Correct.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Online All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8929 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #12 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 12:03pm: It is my understanding they are no longer in the loot tables. Well fuck. Guess I'm glad I'm a hoarder. Holly shit, I have 2--3 CC items I crafted for my main that I ALMOST threw out two TRs ago, but kept because I had spent TP to populate the 2 augment slots on each. That's gonna be nice. Hmmm, I bet I could also sell some of the others for a small fortune. Either way, hoarding that shit is payin dividends.

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Pseudonym Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 340 Location: Under the metaphorical rock Joined: Nov 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #13 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 12:22pm: Hmmm, I bet I could also sell some of the others for a small fortune. Either way, hoarding that shit is payin dividends. Those of us who have been hoarding double slotted items are hopefully all aware that they feel a lot more powerful than they actually are. While it's nice to have another slot, the actual benefits are relatively minimal considering it's always colorless. For a stat that you need 8/2 is way too low, so at cap you can really only use the slots for boosting a less important stat or a skill. Basically, worth having but not a huge deal for most players or most builds. Double slotted items would probably be best suited for leveling, which would allow you to (for example) make a pair of ML 8 str5/deadly4/insstr2 gloves with heavy fort fear immunity? and master's gift slotted.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Online All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8929 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #14 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	Pseudonym wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:13pm: you can really only use the slots for boosting a less important stat or a skill. That's pretty much all I ever used 'em for, and I maintain it was a great decision The MLs on colorless augments are just straight up fuckin stupid. You can get a Stat +6 item with masterful at lvl 9, but to get +6 to a stat on an augment? Fucking LEVEL 20. How is that balanced? Especially when, at level 20l, you could get +7 and +8 items, and it only got better from there? And +8 stat augments? ML 28. So, yeah, unless you're slotting awkwardly, augments are all about bumping those lower-level stats a bit. All stats do something. A few extra points in charisma for UMD, points in stats for saves, etc. SO picture making an ML-20 ring that's really good for 20, and then just casually tacks on two +6 stats? I'll take one of those, thanks.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1204 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	Pseudonym wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:13pm: Double slotted items would probably be best suited for leveling, which would allow you to (for example) make a pair of ML 8 str5/deadly4/insstr2 gloves with heavy fort and master's gift slotted. Except Fort is a blue augment and only slots in armor & shields (and the occasional Cannith Challenge item etc) ....... Double aug slots are always clear/yellow... never going to find a double with green
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Pseudonym Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 340 Location: Under the metaphorical rock Joined: Nov 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #16 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:47pm: Except Fort is a blue augment and only slots in armor & shields (and the occasional Cannith Challenge item etc) .......� Double aug slots are always clear/yellow... never going to find a double with green You're correct, I wasn't thinking.


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Pseudonym Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 340 Location: Under the metaphorical rock Joined: Nov 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #17 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:27pm: The MLs on colorless augments are just straight up fuckin stupid. You can get a Stat +6 item with masterful at lvl 9, but to get +6 to a stat on an augment? Fucking LEVEL 20. How is that balanced? Especially when, at level 20l, you could get +7 and +8 items, and it only got better from there? And +8 stat augments? ML 28. The ML 20 +6 stat augments are a holdout from the old epic augment system. They don't do well with updating old stuff to be in line with current power levels.


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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #18 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 3:12pm	Print Post
	You can do plenty with a Colorless and a Yellow slot for leveling gear. 13: Vitality and Fear Immunity 20: Exceptional Stat, Spell Power 25: Draconic Gem and Imperial Blood


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Online All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8929 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #19 - Aug 29^th, 2016 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	QuantumFX wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 3:12pm: You can do plenty with a Colorless and a Yellow slot for leveling gear. 13: Vitality and Fear Immunity 20: Exceptional Stat, Spell Power 25: Draconic Gem and Imperial Blood Vitality is tough to slot since a lot of heroic items already have it. I keep one in the colorless slot on my Lion's Mane though.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Cairnoir Dragon Raider Offline I am not a farmer! Posts: 222 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2013	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #20 - Aug 31^st, 2016 at 6:34am	Print Post
	I have a few colorless +yellow RLG. I hoping one of them is a ring to make a Con/Sheltering/InsCon at ML13 with a diamond of vitality and a deathblock topaz. Just generally too useful to not do.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #21 - Aug 31^st, 2016 at 8:13am	Print Post
	QuantumFX wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 3:12pm: You can do plenty with a Colorless and a Yellow slot for leveling gear. 13: Vitality and Fear Immunity 20: Exceptional Stat, Spell Power 25: Draconic Gem and Imperial Blood Spell power in a yellow slot? You sure bro?

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #22 - Aug 31^st, 2016 at 9:05am	Print Post
	I've mostly been hoarding items with green slots in them. A single green slot is way more useful than a Yellow + colorless, imo.


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RolyPoly Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 56 Joined: Dec 15^th, 2011	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #23 - Aug 31^st, 2016 at 11:05am	Print Post
	I don't know about 2-augment or not... but I've been trying to find all the lootgen "compass" trinkets I can find so I can search them for even one augment slot. I've found exactly one (Storm Horns chain reward) with a colorless slot. Anyone have a better idea where these can be found? Running the SH chain over and over is boring as all getout.


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Pseudonym Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 340 Location: Under the metaphorical rock Joined: Nov 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2-augment, loot-gen items? Reply #24 - Aug 31^st, 2016 at 11:26am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 31^st, 2016 at 9:05am: I've mostly been hoarding items with green slots in them.� A single green slot is way more useful than a Yellow + colorless, imo.� I'd rather have both to keep my options open, and greens still drop so there's no reason to be too concerned about getting them imo.


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