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LurkYouRongTime Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Jun 4^th, 2016	Question about new Cannith Crafting Sep 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Sorry if this has been answered somewhere, my search skills=not so good and didn't have the chance to check before Lama closed yesterday... In the latest Lama build could you still trade lesser essences for new ones 4:1 or is it fixed to the usual 5:1? Should I turn my greater essences to lesser before U32 hits live? Anyone? Thank you.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9015 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #1 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	I imagine if you could ever trade them at 5:1 that is something that will be fixed before it goes life. 5:1 is the only ratio that makes sense.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #2 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 4:30pm	Print Post
	LurkYouRongTime wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm: Sorry if this has been answered somewhere, my search skills=not so good and didn't have the chance to check before Lama closed yesterday... In the latest Lama build could you still trade lesser essences for new ones 4:1 or is it fixed to the usual 5:1? Should I turn my greater essences to lesser before U32 hits live? Anyone? Thank you. Last I heard it was still 4:1 on Lamma. Which if it goes live that way does mean you can trade your greaters now at 1:5 and then trade your lessers for the new essence at 4:1. But do you really have that kind of time on your hands? I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get to a high enough skill with what I have on hand to make anything I want for myself, and I'm not capped in the current system. Close to it, but not quite there. There's little point in reaching the new cap since making unbound shards is just about pointless unless you have a large pile of duped PEDs. Ignoring for the moment a distinct lack of the new collectables, and hoping with a completely unfounded optimism that they don't fuck up the drop rates.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #3 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 5:19pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 4:30pm: do you really have that kind of time on your hands? Clicking the convert button is not difficult to script in AHK.� Turbine has taught us that competence in the use of AHK (or other scripting languages) is very useful several times in the past and continues to reinforce its value with every decision to make players tap the lever to get a pellet of kibble. If you're going to keep playing DDO for any length of time, you don't have time to NOT learn to automate this sort of thing with a scripting language.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #4 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	They've changed it to 5:1 for the lessers. Waves at Turbine staff reading this post


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #5 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 6:32pm	Print Post
	WeHaveLived wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 5:32pm: They've changed it to 5:1 for the lessers. Link plz.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 6:32pm: Link plz. Scoot yer ass over to Lamma and see for yourself if you need the only proof that can't be faked.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #7 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 11:31pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 6:43pm: Scoot yer ass over to Lamma and see for yourself if you need the only proof that can't be faked. You yourself said it was still 4:1 on Lamannia a few posts above. I'd go to Lama if I could but it's closed. The only thing I have to go on is last report of what the conversion rate is...yours.

	Do not try the patience of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocation of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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LagMonsterrrrrr Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 263 Joined: May 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #8 - Sep 6^th, 2016 at 11:44pm	Print Post
	Irony...


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #9 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 2:06am	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 11:31pm: You yourself said it was still 4:1 on Lamannia a few posts above. What I said was that the last I had heard it was 4:1. Technomage wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 11:31pm: The only thing I have to go on is last report of what the conversion rate is...yours. Um, no. WeHaveLived posted after me that it had been changed to 5:1. So that is the last report you have to go on. Me, I don't care if it's 4:1 or 5:1, since I have no intention of trying to find some advantage by wasting time doing conversions (either scripted or manual Coaly, it's still a waste of time IMO) before U32 goes live.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #10 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 7:54am	Print Post
	I was on Lama a week ago. At that time, the conversion said 4:1, but a stack of 10k turned into 2k, regardless.

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LurkYouRongTime Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Jun 4^th, 2016	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #11 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 8:10am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Last I heard it was still 4:1 on Lamma.� Which if it goes live that way does mean you can trade your greaters now at 1:5 and then trade your lessers for the new essence at 4:1.� But do you really have that kind of time on your hands?� I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get to a high enough skill with what I have on hand to make anything I want for myself, and I'm not capped in the current system.� Close to it, but not quite there.� There's little point in reaching the new cap since making unbound shards is just about pointless unless you have a large pile of duped PEDs. Ignoring for the moment a distinct lack of the new collectables, and hoping with a completely unfounded optimism that they don't fuck up the drop rates. I don't really have that many greaters, majority of my essences are from deconstructing loot in the last 2 months so 90% lessers, should have time to convert the rest. And thanks for the info!


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LurkYouRongTime Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Jun 4^th, 2016	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 8:12am	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Sep 7^th, 2016 at 7:54am: I was on Lama a week ago. At that time, the conversion said 4:1, but a stack of 10k turned into 2k, regardless. Interesting...


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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #13 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 12:37pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Sep 7^th, 2016 at 7:54am: I was on Lama a week ago. At that time, the conversion said 4:1, but a stack of 10k turned into 2k, regardless. Text descriptions are hard, yo!


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #14 - Sep 7^th, 2016 at 11:52pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Sep 7^th, 2016 at 7:54am: I was on Lama a week ago. At that time, the conversion said 4:1, but a stack of 10k turned into 2k, regardless. Thanks.

	Do not try the patience of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocation of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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PersonaNonGrata Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1063 Joined: May 3^rd, 2015	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #15 - Sep 11^th, 2016 at 3:40am	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Sep 7^th, 2016 at 12:37pm: Text descriptions are hard, yo!� No, that is just Turbine maths. 10/4=2


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platfarmchink Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 865 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2016	Re: Question about new Cannith Crafting Reply #16 - Sep 11^th, 2016 at 8:33am	Print Post
	LurkYouRongTime wrote on Sep 6^th, 2016 at 12:36pm: Sorry if this has been answered somewhere, my search skills=not so good and didn't have the chance to check before Lama closed yesterday... In the latest Lama build could you still trade lesser essences for new ones 4:1 or is it fixed to the usual 5:1? Should I turn my greater essences to lesser before U32 hits live? Anyone? Thank you. U32; The Retard Rises


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