to paraphrase classic: "Who say he never looked at his kill count is very likely looking at it till now" :p

Mokune wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

You're right, all their changes will probably do is to reduce the damage a bit and/or to reduce the temp HP a bit.

What's most annoying about this is the amount of broken logic it demonstrates.

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First, to claim that they actually have data collection and/or testing is preposterous.  And the assumption that they are capable of analyzing data or test results is equally preposterous.

But look at the bullet point!
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If this is their conclusion after all of that farcical data collection and testing, then exactly why do they feel the need to make changes to the class?  If it isn't the damage dealing, then what exactly is the problem?  Is it the survivability that they have an issue with?  Is being durable now an exploit which must be corrected?

Asheras wrote on Sep 7^th, 2016 at 9:06pm:


power gamers are more than 1% and they spend more than the rest I bet. And if vets go away, the rest can't do anything. Say byebye to LH shrouds, EE sagas, except heroic quests to take twice+ longer.

Asheras wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 10:38am:

If warlocks are dominating kill counts in raids and groups on your server, the non-warlocks are doing it wrong.

Warlocks are top end survivability and mid-to-good DPS.  There are multiple other classes/builds that are more DPS than warlocks.  Palemasters, shuriken builds, rogue xbow mechs and assassins, rangers, the undead shiradi, etc.

Darkrok wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 1:47pm:


Yes, they're at least 25% of game population. At lv 30 the majority are vets. I bet the majority of otto boxes, pots of all kinds, tomes, hearts and flavor such as cosmetics are consumed by vets.

Asheras wrote on Sep 8^th, 2016 at 10:38am:


On point.  I have much more fun playing as TS/SE.  It feels faster if that makes sense.  I like ES, it's a slower play style from my POV (shield blocking and cycling buttons) I tend to have to chase down mobs quite a bit and wait for CDs.  There always seem to be a few that don't get hit from the aura or aoe bursts cause they move even though they appear within range.

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2016 at 12:03pm:


She needed to.  She needed the references.
It's called pandering, or not shitting in your own nest.
It's actually very telling that the most fixes done in recent years were by a 1 month intern... "Because our spaghetti code is really hard to change".
Sounds like Lyn is more competent than all those rock stars and probably should be made Producer next holidays.

For the analogy, the closest rock star I can think to Turbine is Keith Richards - drug fucked hazbeen.

Is anyone really surprised that Warlock is getting nerfed?

You all KNEW it would be coming  at some point. Warlock was just too much fun.

That being said, I am of the same opinion as others here that it will get changed very little, or in a way that placates  the whiners while being completely superficial.

Warlock is popular. It sells well. I tell the precious few new players I run into to buy Warlock as soon as they can manage it.

Even with shite gear and drunken button mashing in the Enhancement trees it's still workable right into epic. Dump all your points into the wrong stat and you can still function.

Warlock is perhaps the only class you don't need a DDO-PhD to build and play properly past Korthos.

Contrary to what some might think, that's a HUGE fucking win.

At this point in DDO'S life cycle, anything that aids in player retention must now be considered Priority A-1.

Sorry if you wasted months of your life on gearing your Wolf/Shuri_Cannon/Shiradi Spammer build. Take solace in the knowledge that your 1% extra DPS makes you a Boss who solos a tower.

I doubt even Turbine wants to fuck too much with one of their precious few victories over the last 3 years.

Then again,  what the fuck do I know, right? 

Daggertooth wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 12:19am:


dafuq 

Who the fuck are these forum paladins crying!? Do they even know how to play a Lock!?

I bet it is these same guys (there are many of them on Cannith) that play the supposed power toons, like wolf, tree, fury shuri and lock, but still SUCK at it...I wont name and shame here...

There are so many players on Cannit, and I am sure other servers too, that play locks in heroics, think they are uber, and now demand a nerf...

There was a lock the other day in party going on about how uber his 25k gruin and 11k ruins are...I could only laugh..how cute He thinks that is DPS?!? Funny

This is a quote from a noob on the mobo's:
"My capped warlock has 2,892 HPs, 196 PRR, 133 MRR. Temp HPs reach 3,900. Reconstruct heals for ~1,600 a pop. And I still do enough damage to lead KC in most EE/LE content. All while playing with one hand. And that's not a result of significant build planning. I was just messing around"
^^ Funniest shit ever...he thinks this is OP? This IMO is a gimp fucking build that sacrificed a TON of DPS running like a little bitch in Sentinal...he will SUCK in LE shroud...plus I bet my 1100HP lock in Exalted Angel will outkill him 2:1 at least in any LE quest, not that kill count is a direct measurement of DPS anyways bu ja...

These same cunts have never even completed any LE raid, let alone LE shroud which is all that matters end game wise for power gamers...

Warlocks have hands down the worst red named DPS in this game (well almost) and quite frankly need a buff to single target dmg if anything....

The comic value is high though on those mobo's..

You can disagree if you like, but if you cannot see that locks are not OP in the end game LE raid scene, you have no idea about end game, and are likely the type of person that never posts an LFM, and then complain the game is dead, or the type that joins a filler spot in a Guild/Static grp then show off to your friends you completed an LE Shroud when you were carried through all the way...period

This sums it up perfectly, a quote from one of the Omni guys on the Mobo's:
"Ppl first asked Eth for the build set-up, now that they have it, learnt it and they want it nerfed."

DDOcrackhead wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 5:01am:


The reason that she is a "myth" is because she responded to requests on the forums and changed some tool-tips.  Objectively, we can acknowledge that is small potatoes.  But at Turbine, that is the stuff of legends because the bar is set pretty low. 

She also retains that status because her tenure was brief.  As with any public position, sooner or later the forums would have turned on her (ref: your post).  She got out before her status reached the point where troglodytes like you would start lobbing attacks at her so they could feel better about themselves.  It's a stupid grade school mentality some people never grow out of, thinking you gain status by making others lose status.

OldCoaly wrote on Sep 10^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

There's an aphorism that covers the majority of the whiners on the motherboards.

"If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the damned porch."

Shame most of them aren't smart enough to do that.

My warlock life needed an extra skill point per level to have better balance.