So last night I looted level 22 boots with STR 9, speed IX and false life 33 on them. They seem like a pretty decent epic levelling item but they got me thinking... Why did turbine choose to make new CC loot better than new lootgen?

If I'd have made an item with the same attributes in new CC then all values would be higher, STR would be 10, false life would be 39 and melee alarcity (why can't we craft speed you asshats) would be 15%. But why.... Under the old CC system items could be forcibly made lower level than they should be (masterfull craftsmanship) but this effect can, and does, still appear on random loot. Why does an item that I design myself with 3 chosen effect get to have stronger effects at level than random loot 99% of which is garbage? That seems counter productive.

Is it a marketing strategy to sell more of the new treasure level boosters or is it just incompetence? Thoughts?

not speaking about that leveling CC and getting those collectables for all that fancy enchantments is just another grind keeping people playing.

IMHO new CC have some use maybe for end levels, everything else is worth no effort - any decent build will roflstomp thru content without any crafted stuff

Asheras wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 8:50am:


Agreed, although I am pretty partial to the Ench 7 / In Necro 4 goggles my caster wears - no slot though 

Bushin wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 2:05am:


I agree that they pretty much invalidated Ran Gen if you want to do CC.  They placed CC loot higher than I thought they would.  I'm not complaining, because I had max crafting levels and tons of crafting mats.  But they gave it so much power that it wiped out ran gen loot as being something that I care about, besides as a source for crafting materials. 

I also find the naming on the Ran Gen items frustrating.  I get that augment slots dont show and thats fine.  But give us the prefix and the suffix all the time.  And maybe a visual difference if the item has a 3rd effect.  A different color border or background or something.

Gringo wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:51am:


Why bother with crafting in heroics?  Just grab some ran gen mixed with some BtA stuff from the last few packs and roll.  It's 80% of what crafting will get you, which is good enough for heroics. 

The only reason I would craft for heroics was if I was doing something like the old PastLifenmo or a 9 Warlock/11 PL build repeatedly to bang out PL's quick.  But the build never changes for 10-12 lives.  Then there would be some value.  But if you are running the PL's and actually playing the PL class each life, thus the gear isn't the same, then it's a waste of time. 

Epic crafting makes more sense.  I'd make an ML 20 set (mixed with Eveningstar items, etc), an ML 24 set and an ML 26/28 set.  To cycle thru on ETR's on the same build/class.  The repetition makes it worthwhile and the challenge level of some EE quests makes it more valuable than in heroics. 

Even then, I'm not doing much of that. 

Mostly, I'm just looking to craft ML 34 gear.

notajedi wrote on Sep 28^th, 2016 at 7:43am:

^This

I'm not spending my money to work around a problem they intentionally introduced to inconvenience me. It's an arms race with everybody losing - they race to squeeze more, it makes me care less about the game and spend more of my time (and therefore money) elsewhere, which they respond to by squeezing harder ...

I'm not going to invest grind knowing it will be obsolete in a few months. If I could grind out a ton of stuff in a few weeks and have the use of it for 6-12 months, I'd do it, but it takes more than half of the useful lifespan just to get it, I'd rather just spend what little time I devote to this game just playing. RNG is good enough. They spent a year taking crafting from too useless to bother with to too expensive to bother with, good job? 

Asheras wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 11:29am:


Yeah, I hear you on that. The reason I haven't touched those items in a while is probably because lootgen gets really close in terms of power level so I'm too lazy to switch.... I remember when equipping those items actually made me feel like I got significantly stronger.

Asheras wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

Agreed. 

The lack of a scaling ingredient cost based on ML of the item is the biggest thing Turbine got wrong with the new CC system.  That lack created a large cost deterrent to crafting most of the good stuff for lower level heroics, especially the unbound shards/items that a charitable crafter may have given out to new players to help get them started.

Revaulting wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 7:12pm:



Lol
+1

QuantumFX wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 12:32am:

Once you collect the collectables, making a new CC item is super sweet.  Better than anything you can find unless you got that blue moon drop.

Digimonk wrote on Sep 30^th, 2016 at 11:09am:


Oh, Mookie.  Poor Mookie.

Let me explain yet again, and maybe you'll get it this time.  While you call me a stalker, you're the one who haunts my posts.  That is a psychological condition best explained to the layman as being similar to how a thief always thinks people are out to steal from him.

Here's the difference between you and I:

When I speak, it is a sage pronouncement, made using the best of current information, and with a willingness to adapt to and incorporate new information even if it might change a prior position I might have held in the past.  I am not a Republican politician, afraid to be seen as being a 'flip flopper' because things have changed, and any intelligent person would change their position when presented with new facts.

When you speak, it is the gibbering of the town fool, capering in his urine stained motley, unwilling or unable to understand that things change and the strong will adapt while the weak will flail about crying "Who moved my cheese!?"  You cling to the past, and relish in attempting to "prove me wrong" by citing information which has been outdated.  You are an idiot, because any intelligent person is able to adapt to a new situation, while you spend all of your energies focused on the past.  More fool, you.

I pity you, seriously.  I've offered you on two different occasions an opportunity to disengage with me.  And while I'll freely admit that those opportunities were laced with the mockery which you so richly deserve, you have failed to pick up on the chances you have been given to stop failing.

Can I make it easier for you to understand?  Me no taunt you and make you look like tool if you shut your mouth.  Is that better?

I would not shit you, my Mookie.  You are my favorite turd!  Accept my third offer, you won't be disappointed.

It I don't exercise my poor little Mookie, he gets fat.

Digimonk wrote on Oct 8^th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

The extent to which you desperately need my approval is getting sadder day by day.


But please, do another few hours of research into my past statements, formatting nested quotes, and meme generators.  Daddy is so very proud of his little Mookie!