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Reply #25 - Oct 8th, 2016 at 5:21pm
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Looks like right direction but not enough on the surface.

I have an idea brewing though.

How finalized are these changes?
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Reply #26 - Oct 8th, 2016 at 5:42pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 8th, 2016 at 5:21pm:
Looks like right direction but not enough on the surface.

I have an idea brewing though.

How finalized are these changes?



With Turbine? looking at their track record of the last year I would say it's already set in stone. Not big fans of feedback these days.
  
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By the way have you seen the deity feats? I starting to try and work out a maul user, it may be time to take the giant's fist out of storage.
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it may be time to take the giant's fist out of storage.

Mine's just a hairy trumpet.
  

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By the way have you seen the deity feats? I starting to try and work out a maul user, it may be time to take the giant's fist out of storage.


A.K.A your mom's dildo?
  
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The Elf AA crit profile is still broken.

shadow arrows. the cap works though and elemental imbues still function.
  

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Reply #31 - Oct 9th, 2016 at 1:58am
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If I'm not mistaken the changes to Ninja Spy (based on these notes: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/479530-U33-complete-release-notes-(Dei...)

Tier 5 Deadly Striker gives +2 Competence to Threat range.
Capstone Gives another +1 or maybe +2 Crit Multiplier (it's confusingly written).

Ever since Cordo listed my "Just one thing" request to fix throwing multipliers in his recap, and now with these changes, I actually think they are going to fix them.

The most interesting thing about that, will be bards with Shuriken Expertise in Fury throwing 15-20x3 shurikens. Now that 10k is only like 50-70% doubleshot for most builds, the RoF isn't much lower, and the Bard can still Manyshot with a bow if they want, tho with x3 Shurikens it shouldn't be necessary. Also, exploit weakness is amazing with a high RoF.



  
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Reply #32 - Oct 9th, 2016 at 5:58pm
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harharharhar wrote on Oct 9th, 2016 at 1:58am:
I actually think they are going to fix them.



I wouldn't hold your breath.  Being Turbine chances are better that they will go live with the Ninja crit buffs not working for throwing weapons and ignore it the same way they have with Bards. Or they will have a method for it to work for Ninja's but not back-track and fix bards. I mean I do hope I'm wrong but that's how I would bet.
  
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Reply #33 - Oct 9th, 2016 at 9:48pm
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Grand wrote on Oct 9th, 2016 at 5:58pm:
I wouldn't hold your breath.  Being Turbine chances are better that they will go live with the Ninja crit buffs not working for throwing weapons and ignore it the same way they have with Bards. Or they will have a method for it to work for Ninja's but not back-track and fix bards. I mean I do hope I'm wrong but that's how I would bet.

This.
  

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Grand wrote on Oct 9th, 2016 at 5:58pm:
I wouldn't hold your breath.  Being Turbine chances are better that they will go live with the Ninja crit buffs not working for throwing weapons and ignore it the same way they have with Bards. Or they will have a method for it to work for Ninja's but not back-track and fix bards. I mean I do hope I'm wrong but that's how I would bet.

and the most infuriating part of that is whenever a thread pops up about it, the devs just ignore it. not even a reply. swash has been out for like 2 years?
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 9th, 2016 at 10:01pm:
and the most infuriating part of that is whenever a thread pops up about it, the devs just ignore it. not even a reply. swash has been out for like 2 years?


Too hard basket.
Move along.

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Reply #36 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 2:48am
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"Handwraps rewritten as weapons, all existing wraps should convert automatically"

I always get the shivers when I read a SHOULD from turdbin.
  

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Reply #37 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 2:53am
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m4lacka wrote on Oct 10th, 2016 at 2:48am:
"Handwraps rewritten as weapons, all existing wraps should convert automatically"

I always get the shivers when I read a SHOULD from turdbin.


They say should because they did no testing...

  
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Reply #38 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 6:47am
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I'm sure this will have no unforeseen effects on collars, either. Because Turbine is known for paying attention to exactly these kinds of details.
  

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Reply #39 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 6:53am
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The problem with the dev's at Turbine is they have been fumbling around in the dark like a virgin on their wedding night for over ten years now, and they still haven't found the right hole.
  

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Who Cares wrote on Oct 10th, 2016 at 6:53am:
The problem with the dev's at Turbine is they have been fumbling around in the dark like a virgin on their wedding night for over ten years now, and they still haven't found the right hole.


Yet they still manage to fuck the playerbase right in the arse every god damn time......
  

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Who Cares wrote on Oct 10th, 2016 at 6:53am:
The problem with the dev's at Turbine is they have been fumbling around in the dark like a virgin on their wedding night for over ten years now, and they still haven't found the right hole.

Your mistake is assuming they are actively looking for a hole. 

It's more likely they're curled up in the fetal position in a corner crying because they're scared of the dark.
  
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Reply #42 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 4:49pm
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I'm too lazy to try and understand these changes, I only have one pure monk and dislike all monk variants. To make it simple: are they OP now? Should I think of TRing my monk?
  
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Reply #43 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 5:09pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 9th, 2016 at 10:01pm:
and the most infuriating part of that is whenever a thread pops up about it, the devs just ignore it. not even a reply. swash has been out for like 2 years?



30 months.  And you are totally right, if you bring it up in ddochat, or in the developer events on lamma you get blocked, the consistency of their avoidance of the swash issue is so rock solid that there is little question it is a directive from the top down.

So Ninja?  I'm very curious to see what happens.
  
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Reply #44 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 7:14pm
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Grand wrote on Oct 10th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
bring it up in ddochat, or in the developer events on lamma you get blocked

theyre petty as fuck. why not at least give your customers the standard turbine responses : "read by a de3v". Or some excuse like, we cant get to it right now. the silence makes people think that they looked at it and saw that it is too much work for one fix and they wont ever pay anyone to fix it.
  

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Reply #45 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 8:34pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 10th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
the silence makes people think that they looked at it and saw that it is too much work for one fix and they wont ever pay anyone to fix it.


Which is pretty much how it is?
  
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Reply #46 - Oct 10th, 2016 at 10:30pm
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What's the ETA on U33? Am thinking of converting my main over to Monk.
  

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Reply #47 - Oct 11th, 2016 at 1:39am
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Based on the text and the DDOstream, I'm going to give U33 a pass as being in general a good thing.  I see no nerfs, other than possibly Fist of Light heals, and potential nerfs for the conversion of handwraps to weapons.

On the plus side, Monks get a clear boost (again, unless the handwraps conversion is for crap), they have added some interesting options for divines even if I don't think they will  bridge the gap to competitively playable.  Any scrap is a good scrap, I guess.  What is interesting is that when asked in chat Cordovan didn't affirm that this was the Monk class pass.  Who knows if that was him being stupid, or if further Monk work is pending.  Hopefully this will not count in any way as a divine pass...

And Cordovan claims that they did a "general typo pass" and corrected dozens of typos, which is something I have thought was long overdue, and both a QOL patch and also a "we have the minimum amount of pride in our work toy remain amongst the living" patch.  It was probably only sparked by Lynabell's internship and her efforts making similar typo corrections before she left, but I don't care what brought about the sudden interest in fixing years old errors, I'm just glad they finally decided to spend 8 hours of dev time getting them done.
  

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Reply #48 - Oct 11th, 2016 at 2:14am
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Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2016 at 1:39am:
Based on the text and the DDOstream, I'm going to give U33 a pass as being in general a good thing.  I see no nerfs, other than possibly Fist of Light heals, and potential nerfs for the conversion of handwraps to weapons.

On the plus side, Monks get a clear boost (again, unless the handwraps conversion is for crap), they have added some interesting options for divines even if I don't think they will  bridge the gap to competitively playable.  Any scrap is a good scrap, I guess.  What is interesting is that when asked in chat Cordovan didn't affirm that this was the Monk class pass.  Who knows if that was him being stupid, or if further Monk work is pending.  Hopefully this will not count in any way as a divine pass...

And Cordovan claims that they did a "general typo pass" and corrected dozens of typos, which is something I have thought was long overdue, and both a QOL patch and also a "we have the minimum amount of pride in our work toy remain amongst the living" patch.  It was probably only sparked by Lynabell's internship and her efforts making similar typo corrections before she left, but I don't care what brought about the sudden interest in fixing years old errors, I'm just glad they finally decided to spend 8 hours of dev time getting them done.


What's more telling is if they claim spelling error corrections as part of a pass, and not just do it because it is amateurish to leave them.

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Reply #49 - Oct 11th, 2016 at 2:37am
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PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 11th, 2016 at 2:14am:
What's more telling is if they claim spelling error corrections as part of a pass, and not just do it because it is amateurish to leave them.

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Agreed.  Cordovan's list only listed one such error correction, it was in his chat that he claimed that there had been a "general typo pass."  And he further claimed that he only listed one example even though there were "dozens" of typo fixes.  Perhaps he isn't terribly proud of the fact that those typos have lived on for years without any effort being made for correct them?  I certainly think very poorly of Turbine when I see these facts, and I'd hope that many pothers would also think poorly of them for ignoring such easy to fix issues which said so much about their lack of quality control and customer support.
  

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I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


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