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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Oct 19^th, 2016 at 9:29pm	Print Post
	Has anyone made anything using this shard? If so, does the damage type have to match (one of) the weapon damage type(s)?

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #1 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 7:11am	Print Post
	It does not have to match. You can put the Bludgeoning Effect on a Heavy Repeater and it will add the bludgeon damage to each bolt. It will not add DR/Bludgeon bypass though.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #2 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	Mokune wrote on Oct 20^th, 2016 at 7:11am: It does not have to match.� You can put the Bludgeoning Effect on a Heavy Repeater and it will add the bludgeon damage to each bolt. Thanks for the info! Quote: It will not add DR/Bludgeon bypass though. Damn it, I would have sworn that Jerry claimed they were going to fix that.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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nowAvaultie Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #3 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	Mokune wrote on Oct 20^th, 2016 at 7:11am: It does not have to match.� You can put the Bludgeoning Effect on a Heavy Repeater and it will add the bludgeon damage to each bolt. It will not add DR/Bludgeon bypass though. What's the point of adding that damage type if it doesn't bypass the corresponding DR? Seriously, am I missing something or are the developers just that fucking stupid?

	OldCoaly wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:27am: If one of those types of weapons isn't "wraps", then it's a non-starter for Fran.
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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #4 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	Pretty sure good dmg adds good dr breaking now. I would expect that if you added a special bludgeon ( or whatever) physical type of dmg, it would not break dr and that was a conscious choice. Again, what I would expect...alignment type adds bypass, physical type does not.

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Reyes. Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 151 Location: Victoria, M�xico Joined: Jul 15^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #5 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	nowAvaultie wrote on Oct 20^th, 2016 at 1:46pm: What's the point of adding that damage type if it doesn't bypass the corresponding DR? Seriously, am I missing something or are the developers just that fucking stupid? Suposedly will be fixed as a help for Kensais so they can do reaper content without being buttfucked. You know, with all those absorbe slash/pierce/bludgeoning champs. But we will se how they screw that


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #6 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 4:37pm	Print Post
	nowAvaultie wrote on Oct 20^th, 2016 at 1:46pm: What's the point of adding that damage type if it doesn't bypass the corresponding DR? Seriously, am I missing something or are the developers just that fucking stupid? You are not missing something, and yes they are. Lets see, shall I add 4d6 bludgeoning damage to my heavy repeater, or 4d6 acid damage? Neither will break any DR, but the acid might heal clay golems and arcane oozes. So maybe 4d6 good? What a crap shoot. Next time I need to make a weapon I might test the alignments for DR breaking. But a long while before NewCC I spent a pile of my collectables on the collectable vendor lottery for augments, so in several cases I have more of the rare collectables than I do of the uncommon. The capabilities of NewCC are pretty sweet, except for the few cases where for some reason they decided to reduce the effects (Fort, Lore, probably others) and the collectables are a bit of a kick in the nuts. They seem to be very much more about the grind these days. Grind your CC collectables, grind your LGS mats, grind your slave lords mats. All of them are worthwhile gear, but the grind will make the content old fast. If they would ever release new content without a new corresponding crafting matrix, it would reduce the tedium of always running the same quests over and over and over again. New content with slave lords collectables wouldn't be so horrible, would it? New content with LGS collectables, game breaking?

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #7 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 4:53pm	Print Post
	physical ones work like any additional damage, ie doesnot change DR breaking status of weapon. Alignment ones are special case as aligning weapon is part of enchantment and should be working for DR breaking purpose. Anyway that extra physical dmg enchantment is working as intended, at least thats what Cordo said and no change is planned


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #8 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	The added Pierce/Bludgeon/Slash damage itself breaks DR. It does not add those DR types to the weapon. Alignment damages do. Alignment/Elemental/Light damage is prefix. Bludgeon/Pierce/Slash are suffix.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #9 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	Gringo wrote on Oct 20^th, 2016 at 4:53pm: physical ones work like any additional damage, ie doesnot change DR breaking status of weapon. Alignment ones are special case as aligning weapon is part of enchantment and should be working for DR breaking purpose. Anyway that extra physical dmg enchantment is working as intended, at least thats what Cordo said and no change is planned I don't doubt that is true, but it is crap.� You've got the Silver Slinger, and Ranger enhance, and probably another decent handful of ways to add different physical damage types to a weapon which do actually break DR. Claiming that alignment damage is somehow special and deserves a different and better mechanic makes zero sense given all of those other examples.
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	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: NewCC 'Effect' (damage type) Reply #10 - Oct 20^th, 2016 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	The fate of one trick ponnies is sad


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