Bushin wrote on Oct 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

That much, I don't actually have too much a problem with. The stupid part is that it takes one minute per level to regain them. On UMD-poor builds, that's 5-10 minutes with your thumb up your ass. For each beholder in the quest.

Frank wrote on Oct 26^th, 2016 at 8:59pm:

Revaulting wrote on Oct 26^th, 2016 at 2:56pm:

That part.

Frank wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 4:39am:

How often do you solo?

Frank wrote on Oct 26^th, 2016 at 8:59pm:


EDIT: The tone in my previous reply was a bit wrong, I feel like you've digressed quite a bit from the original question but your suggestions would be valid. However on my current build I don't have easy access to deathward. I know there's a lot of ways of relatively easily getting deathward but on this character combined with serious time constraints they are not an option.

This means that without deathblock the character has no resistance to death spells besides saving throws (which is a 5% or 1/400 in case of PK) chance of instantly dying. Since the character also relies on a lot of gear to work I can't always wear one of the items you linked. Easy solution would indeed be to swap ovcer to one of these items when needed (e.g. when fighting beholders).

However I do not know every single caster that casts instant death off the top of my head and by the time I find out i'm usually already a soul stone. Hence I was asking for a topaz of deathblock because that easily fits into a gear set and mitigates this problem.

zoriaan wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:


I play on Orien myself but thanks for offering. The thought's appreciated.

OldCoaly wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 1:47pm:

This

Bushin wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

That what Visor of the Flesh Render Guards is for.  Very fast chain at level on elite, smash it on N for repeat runs, and about a 30-50% chance to be offered one.

Also the night revels offers spooky DW pots, but I prefer the clickies as they never go away.


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Yes, that is the easy solution.  I don't wear those items full time on any character, they aren't great items aside from the negative level absorb.

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That's why you get DW via a clicky, hireling spell, or potion.  None of those methods requre you to fit anything into your gear set.
Then you swap in the neg level absorb items for beholders which dispel your DW.  For (almost) all other fights you can wear whatever neck item you chose.  The almost is for the few pesky casters who dispel buffs.

Frank wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

I'm guessing then, the answer is you're a whole lot better at dealing with beholders than I am. Got any pointers?


spyder wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

This seems promising.

Revaulting wrote on Oct 28^th, 2016 at 3:41am:


Spyder took care of it for me.  The only things I would add are:
If you are ranged or have ray spells, open with those.  The anti-magic is either a short range or a normal range effect, so you can hit from outside its effective range.
The neg level absorbers I linked are just as good as a spell absorb item, and last a lot longer, as long as you can live through the simple damage of a disintegrate.
If you have to melee them down and you're not a melee build, run behind them or use deception to turn them away from you.  They can still pop you with the rays that can aim behind them, but not the anti-magic cone.  The magic suppression doesn't last very long and if your melee is weak you can recover from it and finish with a spell.

Except for red named or boss beholders, they usually die very fast even at level on elite.  The orange named in VON3 don't seem to have as many HP as the ones in the insanity packs, but I think all the named ones there are red and not orange.

spyder wrote on Oct 28^th, 2016 at 8:32am:



Holy shit I never noticed that. If that's true it's amazing and I thank you profoundly for sharing that tip.

Spell resistance is also a thing.

Revaulting wrote on Oct 28^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

Spell absorb works against UH stuns.