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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5956 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #50 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 10:13am	Print Post
	RemRemi wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:31am: Not a good one.� Mechanic gives +1 multi for bows, and you are already grabbing int to attack so int to damage isn't far off. Even without int-to-damage the RP is enough to put it ahead of GxB for that period.

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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #51 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 11:23am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:12pm: you are just cherry picking what you want Hi Welcome

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #52 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:42pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 10:12pm: Lots of trees are limiting. Yes, they should change as well.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #53 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 12:33pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:42pm: Yes, they should change as well. I'm no fan of the tank/DPS/healer triad, but arguing for further homogenization of the enhancement trees is going too far in the other direction.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Lhynn DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 404 Joined: Oct 26^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #54 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 1:48pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 12:33pm: I'm no fan of the tank/DPS/healer triad, but arguing for further homogenization of the enhancement trees is going too far in the other direction. Not really, no.


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #55 - Jan 25^th, 2017 at 7:23am	Print Post
	BigErkyKid has a point in that all bugs should be fixed. It's only a shame that most (all?) of the bugs he points out are those which work for the players. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of bugs which work against the players, and yet I don't see those on his list. BigErkyKid is a dick.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #56 - Jan 25^th, 2017 at 12:09pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 7:23am: BigErkyKid is a troll. ...and a damned good one.


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Lhynn DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 404 Joined: Oct 26^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #57 - Jan 25^th, 2017 at 12:28pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 12:09pm: ...and a damned good one. Taking notes nignog?


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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3468 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #58 - Jan 25^th, 2017 at 12:35pm	Print Post
	"stop liking things i dont like" the thread clearly his life is affected by the way YOU do things. because instead of himself just not doing things, he needs to make sure YOU arent doing them. there's a word for that, i think its oppression. or maybe intolerance. i guarantee he voted for hillary.

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AngryKobold Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 190 Location: Riding a Minotaur Joined: Nov 1^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #59 - Jan 25^th, 2017 at 3:49pm	Print Post
	I think there is a huge assumption that DDO coders didn't already know about most of those. Is interesting to see them admit to it, reply to it and not just nuke the thread from orbit to remove it from the record. Real question is when will they fix it, and will they give the 30%+ server population that uses those builds a +20 heart or something to deal with the mass nerf if they ever do fix all of those NOT WAI. Or maybe if they do fix them, it will be Standing Stones way of trying to further thin DDO's server populations or make a mint on selling +20 hearts with free +5s! Of course seeing racial boosts go the way of the dodo shows some intent on their part. Really makes me want to slow down on building more slavers crap until I know what builds are diaf. While imbue for shuri isn't the only option, I would miss that a lot, just plain fun. Between Reaper mode and public acknowledgement of NOT WAI really does make huge questions for future builds.


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #60 - Jan 25^th, 2017 at 3:53pm	Print Post
	AngryKobold wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 3:49pm: I think there is a huge assumption that DDO coders didn't already know about most of those. Is interesting to see them admit to it, reply to it and not just nuke the thread from orbit to remove it from the record. Real question is when will they fix it, and will they give the 30%+ server population that uses those builds a +20 heart or something to deal with the mass nerf if they ever do fix all of those NOT WAI. Or maybe if they do fix them, it will be Standing Stones way of trying to further thin DDO's server populations or make a mint on selling +20 hearts with free +5s! Of course seeing racial boosts go the way of the dodo shows some intent on their part. Really makes me want to slow down on building more slavers crap until I know what builds are diaf. While imbue for shuri isn't the only option, I would miss that a lot, just plain fun. Between Reaper mode and public acknowledgement of NOT WAI really does make huge questions for future builds. A year and half ago there was a thread posted how treebuilds are overperforming, some dev jumped in and said it will be fixed with druid rework. I was on break as i was working outside of my country, came back 2 and half months ago, and guess what im playing now on my main. It starts with a t and ends with a e. Since ranger rework is kinda fresh they might touch shuri imbues, but anything that isnt recent they wont touch because they have no clue where to start.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #61 - Jan 25^th, 2017 at 5:08pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 12:33pm: I'm no fan of the tank/DPS/healer triad, but arguing for further homogenization of the enhancement trees is going too far in the other direction. Arguing against Assassins being relegated to only daggers, AAs to only longbows, TWO trees to only staffs, etc, is somehow saying there should be more homogenization?

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #62 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 5:08pm: Arguing against Assassins being relegated to only daggers, AAs to only longbows, TWO trees to only staffs, etc, is somehow saying there should be more homogenization?� Without addressing your specific points since they don't really apply here, in general having all weapons behave the same is a homogenization, and one which makes the game less flavorful rather than more. There is a reason why shurikens, with their crappy crit profile and crappy damage, are still a valid build. And that reason isn't because shurikens act just like bows or crossbows, mechanically.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #63 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:41am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39am: Without addressing your specific points since they don't really apply here, in general having all weapons behave the same is a homogenization, and one which makes the game less flavorful rather than more. There is a reason why shurikens, with their crappy crit profile and crappy damage, are still a valid build.� And that reason isn't because shurikens act just like bows or crossbows, mechanically. Words, LOL.


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Lhynn DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 404 Joined: Oct 26^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #64 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:57am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39am: Without addressing your specific points since they don't really apply here, in general having all weapons behave the same is a homogenization, and one which makes the game less flavorful rather than more. You are not arguing for the weapons, you are arguing for the characters skills. Theres nothing wrong with weapons behaving differently, thats good. There is a problem with characters only being able to pick 1 or 2 weapons because thats all they can use. That is boring and pretty unrealistic. Quote: There is a reason why shurikens, with their crappy crit profile and crappy damage, are still a valid build.� And that reason isn't because shurikens act just like bows or crossbows, mechanically. No the reason is far more retarded than that, the reason is because characters can throw a star shaped thingy better than they can throw a dart shaped thingy for some mystifying reason. So much better in fact that it could be said that while with one they can kill gods, they throw the others as if they were doing it with their elbows. More enhancement trees are sorely needed, and them being able to cater to broader categories of weapons would be nice. Also would be nice if they had different effects for different weapons.


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #65 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 3:00am	Print Post
	Faggots arguing homogenization: figures.


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Lhynn DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 404 Joined: Oct 26^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #66 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 3:27am	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 3:00am: Faggots arguing homogenization: figures. You got back into playing DDO?


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #67 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 3:55am	Print Post
	Lhynn wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 3:27am: You got back into playing DDO? Fuck no, that shit's for losers.


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #68 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 9:46am	Print Post
	Lhynn wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:57am: There is a problem with characters only being able to pick 1 or 2 weapons because thats all they can use. That is boring and pretty unrealistic. There's no limit here. Players choose trees which boost one weapon or another. Don't point to a free choice and then call it a limitation. Next you'll be railing against Wizards only being proficient with simple weapons. "It's boring and unrealistic that Wizards can't use greatswords!" You traded your proficiency with martial weapons for the ability to tell physics to shut the fuck up.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #69 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:39am: Without addressing your specific points since they don't really apply here, in general having all weapons behave the same is a homogenization, and one which makes the game less flavorful rather than more. There is a reason why shurikens, with their crappy crit profile and crappy damage, are still a valid build.� And that reason isn't because shurikens act just like bows or crossbows, mechanically. I didn't say "make all weapons behave the same", I said it would be better to build enhancement trees around playstyles instead of specific weapons. For example, I believe Rogues would be more flavorful, interesting, and less homogeneous if their 3 trees were TWF specific, THF specific, and ranged specific; instead of dagger specific, staff specific, and crossbow specific. Say you want to play a classic flavorful short sword rogue. Too bad, you can't with the current set up, because running around with a 17-20x3 crit profile when you could have 15-20x4 with daggers/kukris is fucking gimp.

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SpaceGoat Stormreaver Piker Online I Love Drama! Posts: 599 Joined: Oct 14^th, 2015	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #70 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:47pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 12:19pm: I didn't say "make all weapons behave the same", I said it would be better to build enhancement trees around playstyles instead of specific weapons. For example, I believe Rogues would be more flavorful, interesting, and less homogeneous if their 3 trees were TWF specific, THF specific, and ranged specific; instead of dagger specific, staff specific, and crossbow specific. Say you want to play a classic flavorful short sword rogue. Too bad, you can't with the current set up, because running around with a 17-20x3 crit profile when you could have 15-20x4 with daggers/kukris is fucking gimp. This is true, but the flip side of this is, at least now rogues use kukris and daggers as opposed to everyone using the same weapon which was superior. Remember back in the day when every twf used khopeshes for the most part.


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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #71 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 3:53pm: guess what im playing now on my main. It starts with a t and ends with a� e. "The skin flute?"

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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #72 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 12:19pm: I didn't say "make all weapons behave the same", I said it would be better to build enhancement trees around playstyles instead of specific weapons. For example, I believe Rogues would be more flavorful, interesting, and less homogeneous if their 3 trees were TWF specific, THF specific, and ranged specific; instead of dagger specific, staff specific, and crossbow specific. Say you want to play a classic flavorful short sword rogue. Too bad, you can't with the current set up, because running around with a 17-20x3 crit profile when you could have 15-20x4 with daggers/kukris is fucking gimp. They did that with the Swashbuckler tree's 2nd core. It really did open up the options to use any light weapon rather than just the base type with the best crit profile. It would nice if they added something like that each class or maybe better yet as an update to the racial trees.


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #73 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 4:35pm	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:59pm: "The skin flute?" Yes!!!


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Lhynn DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 404 Joined: Oct 26^th, 2016	Re: BigJerkyKid throws everyone under the bus Reply #74 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 9:46am: There's no limit here.� Players choose trees which boost one weapon or another.� Don't point to a free choice and then call it a limitation. If trees favored 3/4 weapons in different ways with an effect on gameplay youd find a lot more flexibility both in char building and gameplay. Quote: Next you'll be railing against Wizards only being proficient with simple weapons.� "It's boring and unrealistic that Wizards can't use greatswords!"� You traded your proficiency with martial weapons for the ability to tell physics to shut the fuck up. Can you stop being so horribly retarded for once in your fucking posting career you stupid cuck? Jesus fucking christ. Also theres nothing wrong with allowing for more flexibility for players that want to make a gish that works. Its a popular enough character concept that this retarded focus on specialization has almost killed.
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