Instakill. PK,Finger,Wail, Circle of death,Wail, PWK undeath to death or flesh to stone and leave it if deathwarded. mass hold then nuke for additional damage.

#reroll

It's third life, actually. If I TR'ed into the same build right now I'd probably go Warforged for self-heals and Mithril Body and Focus more on Air/Ice or Fire/Air.

I usually do a web/acid rain/Ice Storm combo when facing lots of mobs.

So, get carried to lvl 20 and tr into a warlock for epic past life grinding?

Arganthonius wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Go human, maximize and empower at lvl 1 take air at sart, go nuts with the slas.
Fuck shield mastery and armor, if you cant kill fast enough you will be dead with or without them. Get the evocation dc feats. may want enchant for holds altough i found them to be enough and may want necro for the ocasional non direct dps instakill.

Wind dance is your friend at lvl 12, that + displacement + stoneskin+ dodge will keep you up with a ocasional heal scroll.

Its not hard dude, did 3 sorc lives with that basic frame and was a brezee. Hell i did eeven got bored (not as bored as warlock tough).

I think some dude in the forums has a detailed build like the one i used. Fairwind or something and works neat.

exploytoften wrote on Mar 31^st, 2018 at 5:01pm:

In other words, roll a Wizard Pale Master.

Edrein wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 11:13am:

Pretty much this.

Edrein wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 11:13am:

The DCs won't land for any of the Spell Schools. 40+ by 18 is the New Black or GTFO ur bild is giomp.

This all but rules out Warforged, since the CHA penalty and gimped self-heals in Reaper mode are non-starters. The body armour feats for Warforged are too expensive on a feat starved class as well.

Arganthonius wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 12:50pm:

Yes. Sorc and Cleric past lives are what you suffer through so your Warlock lives are better.

Digimonk wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 1:19pm:

Or... He likely has done all of the above and reached the conclusion that perversely wasting a massive amount of time to play a class that is (like most classes) always going to be woefully inferior to the broken Warlock is pointless.

Reyes. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 3:30pm:

Fairwind was heavily gear and Past Life dependent to have full effect.

It also predates Reaper mode.

I know because I used it as a base on my Air Savant and it wasn't working "as advertised".

Go ahead and take a non-optimized Air Savant into Tethyamar on Elite sometime. Hell, go ahead and take an optimized Air Savant in. Prepare for disappointment.

CR:24 Drow Rangers with big SR and huge saves in every sat with Evasion mean you're gonna have a really bad time.

Strategies that involve insta-kills or CC with Hold (X) spells will fail with depressing frequency.

Sorc doesn't have the feats (even if you go Human) for the Spell Penetration + Evocation to break the SR consistently, and that's before the massively inflated saves are rolled.

I mean, it's POSSIBLE to squeeze in those feats, but you're giving up something you'd probably prefer to not give up, like Force of Personality, Mental Toughness, Expand, or Quicken.

Old School casters with a blue bar to manage won't be able to mitigate the attrition, even with almost 3000 SP and spamming super-efficient-ulta-maximized SLAs.

And we're not even discussing Reaper mode, at any skull level.

Content designed post-Warlock will stymie even the most well built Sorcs, unless they're just Uber-players with every conceivable caster PL, BiS Gear, and a truly perverse masochistic streak.

Tethyamar is a more extreme example, but there will simply be content you cannot run solo, or will have to let a group carry you while you pike.

Edrein wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 4:15pm:

I wish this were true, but SSG and the existing shit class balance almost guarantees that this will manage to suck and blow at the same time.

The above criticisms are not directed towards the forum, they are directed towards SSG who introduced a broken Warlock class into the game and we've all been paying for it since. 

I play a 1st life air sorc, wf heavy plated. got evo and greater evo and conjuration for web. my equipment is mostly cannith crafted with inherent bonus'. i do well up until R3 but it gets spell point intensive.

Reyes. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2018 at 4:01pm:


The problem with this is the forumites. They bitch and moan so badly that no caster is going to get a proper pass that brings them into the modern era of DDO. While they subsequently scream for warlock nerfs that aren't going to happen again.

Despite the devs incompetence/lack of functional game knowledge, even they realize warlocks aren't the problem.

Until more folks get off their asses and refute the shit spewed regularly on the forums, you might as well settle in to just playing warlocks the near side of forever or until the game closes.

Flav wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2018 at 12:07pm:


I'm not so sure about this. I feel like I've managed to keep a great deal of the forumites silenced in the druid threads. The only one evading logic is fucking Tilomere. Who I assume finally stopped taking his meds because boy has he gone on a tirade of stupid the past few weeks in the lamannia/preview threads.

Its no mystery  that everyone here is for the most part a complete dumbass.   Most of them are simply regurgitating what they were taught by the people I taught, but sadly since they were never exposed to the actual source they end up coming here and looking like an idiot because they never actually understand what they are being taught.. they are like birds simply imitating the few concepts here and there   

Look back through the forums over the years and you will find time and time again people spouting off rubbish that they know nothing about.  Years later you will see the same people finally coming to the conclusions that I calmly tried to explain to them a decade earlier.   Of course they never "arrive at the conclusion" for themselves until time and ignorance has washed against their skulls enough times to erase the damage I might have caused by trying to teach them concepts they were obviously not ready to accept.

Now, onto the topic at hand... Acid Sorc... or for those who those who are a little more refined, a Conjuration sorceror.

The main reason people are mostlyl blind to the benefits of a conjuration specialist are due to their melees having such puny DPS that they simply cannot see themselves having the teeth to chew their own food... they need Mass Hold.   

Web is an amazing spell that works wonders on many mobs.   Glitterdust is another amazing spell that most people no nothing about.. and works on the remainder of the mobs that are immune to web.  Hell Stinking CLoud is another great one but we won't go there.

As for the OP simply lose Ice Storm, that is wasting your mana.   All you need to do is web the mobs and cast Acid Rain as usual. After casting Acid Rain what you will do is simply cast two fully maximized/empowered Acid Blasts on the mobs every few seconds.. one being your SLA, the other being from your lvl 3 spells.  Should cost 30 sp for both of them with all the  Meta discounts.   That will solve all your problems.   If you still have problems, just lower the difficulty as needed until you accumulate the gear/experience/ DCs/ Spell power etc as usual.  But for now, this alone should get you through Elite mobs easily.  

Metal-Beast wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 6:31pm:

Spoken like someone that's never run a proper Evo or Conjuration sorcerer (esp in heroics as specified by the OP) or possibly just lacks the intellectual capacity to figure it out after actually trying it.

FFS, people were steamrolling heroic content with sorcerers for years before warlocks were ever a polyp in the devs' poop chute.  It's not rocket science, it's not hard, and it's not even challenging to figure out. 

For example:  https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/357759-Ultimate-TR-junkie-leveling-fra...

That wasn't even an optimal, min-maxed full sorcerer build.  They didn't go full/pure sorcerer due to the plan for getting non-sorcerer PLs and they still facerolled heroic stuff.  It's fire based, but easy enough to modify the idea for acid.  For acid, max conj DCs, secondary DC focus on Evo, max acid spell power, max acid crit, max spell crit multi.

I did several PLs using that Sorcerer template back in the day and it was stupidly easy.  I've also done multiple PLs with pewpew and aura Warlocks.  They're easy, too, but that doesn't invalidate the power and ease with which a good sorcerer build can plow through heroics. 

Last year, I got a bit sick of seeing all the "waah! OP'd warlock touched me in the bad spot and ruined DDO for the next 4 generations of my family!" posts on the mobos, so I rolled up a first-life Evo/Fire sorcerer and used whatever RNG and named gear I could loot from missions or buy in the AH with plat earned from missions as a test.  I easily solo'd elite/R1 missions on that toon through level 12 or so before I got bored and went back to working on my main.  When public LFMs were posted for the missions I was working on, I joined them and had no problems staying competitive with and often beating the warlocks in those groups.

Based on my past experience with sorcerer based PLs, I have zero reason to think that build would not have been able to continue rolling through elite/R1 all the way to 18/20.  If anything, it should get easier due to the newer named gear available in the upper heroic levels.

Are you going to be able to solo steamroll R5+ content with an evo/conj sorcerer?  No, but then again, pewpew warlocks suck hard in higher skull content too, so the point about warlocks is still moot and stupid.

I would expect that an acid sorcerer might be more challenging in epics due to the increased frequency of acid resistant or immune mobs and the mob HP bloat that puts a strain on spell point pools, but the scope of the OP's question was heroics, so there you go.

I don't get to play that often, so I've only just gotten to level 20. With the new Elemental Apotheosis immunity negation, I'm starting to question if I should just go Fire Savant instead of Air, or even if I should just TR into a Druid.

Right now I'm in a level 3 Shiradi.
I'm also wondering what the most efficient leveling method in Epics is for someone who can't solo EE.

Bigjunk wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 8:39am:


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