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Re: DPS Tests U39 Lama
Reply #125 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:34pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:53pm:
On kobolds 30k + for the top builds on maxed characters. In game 25-20k. First life on kobolds 20-15k, in game about 11k~


What are the main attributers to the 10k+ in game dps difference between maxed out/fire lifers? +9% doublestrike?
  

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Reply #126 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:59pm
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Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:34pm:
What are the main attributers to the 10k+ in game dps difference between maxed out/fire lifers? +9% doublestrike?

There are a few builds that get 25-20k in game. But those are maxed characters where they can trade off defensive AP and feats into dps sinks without dying.

This is the general breakdown of past life dps relevant abilities ;

9 dstrike from epic lives
3 from scourge lives + 6 offhand doublestrike

racial points into god-like aasimar tree
+3 damage, 5 dstrike, 10mp, +2 str, + 2 str nodes in core ( only thing better than that for boss tests is using scourge aasimar and its divine form )

3 dmg from monk lives
3 dmg, seeker from enchant weapons epl stance
3 sneak attack damage from rogue pl
sneak of shadows
Some amount of hide skill for sneak damage ( ~11? )
slightly higher secondary dps stats int/cha/wis for kta/dm ( 4-6 )
slightly higher damage stats (4 - 6 )
4 build points ;p

much better access to twists of fate from points + slots

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Re: DPS Tests U39 Lama
Reply #127 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:12am
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:59pm:
There are a few builds that get 25-20k in game. But those are maxed characters where they can trade off defensive AP and feats into dps sinks without dying.

This is the general breakdown of past life dps relevant abilities ;

3 from scourge lives + 6 offhand doublestrike

racial points into god-like aasimar tree
+3 damage, 5 dstrike, 10mp, +2 str, + 2 str nodes in core ( only thing better than that for boss tests is using scourge aasimar and its divine form )



Thanks for the run down! Its funny how ssg nerfed humans yet they released aasimar. They could have at least nerfed the values of the damage boost and still allow it to stack.
  

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Reply #128 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:02pm
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Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:12am:
funny how ssg nerfed humans yet they released aasimar.

But wait. There's more. Spell Pen? Yeah, sure why not. An improved Lay on Hands that heals for 1k in reaper 7? Check. Oh, you need some heal amp to go with that cheese, fam? We gotchu. Don't want that 10mp and instead 10% hp and 10prr? Got that too...

It is the most absurdly, comically, blatant cash grab, powerful race ever created in DDO. By far.
  

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Reply #129 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:56pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:02pm:
But wait. There's more. Spell Pen? Yeah, sure why not. An improved Lay on Hands that heals for 1k in reaper 7? Check. Oh, you need some heal amp to go with that cheese, fam? We gotchu. Don't want that 10mp and instead 10% hp and 10prr? Got that too...

It is the most absurdly, comically, blatant cash grab, powerful race ever created in DDO. By far. 


I never really paid attention to the assimar race since i dont play much anymore. Looking back at it though SSG clearly nerfed humans so they could sell more assimar race in ddo store. Thats pretty savage tbh
  

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Reply #130 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:17pm
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Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:56pm:
I never really paid attention to the assimar race since i dont play much anymore. Looking back at it though SSG clearly nerfed humans so they could sell more assimar race in ddo store. Thats pretty savage tbh

Humans with dual boosting were the exact opposite. It hindered any race sales and it well was above every other race for melee and ranged dps. Aasimar is better than any other race for melee dps, and defenses. Horc is better vs trash that can be helplessed.
  

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Reply #131 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 4:23pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:02pm:
But wait. There's more. Spell Pen? Yeah, sure why not. An improved Lay on Hands that heals for 1k in reaper 7? Check. Oh, you need some heal amp to go with that cheese, fam? We gotchu. Don't want that 10mp and instead 10% hp and 10prr? Got that too...

It is the most absurdly, comically, blatant cash grab, powerful race ever created in DDO. By far. 


It's not much of a cash grab unless you consider that it comes free with any ravenloft buy.  You're buying ravenloft anyway for the power creep, right?  So aasimar just comes with the package.

But yeah, it is the tits.
  

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Reply #132 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 6:04pm
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Frank wrote on Oct 4th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
You're buying ravenloft anyway

Nope.

Not pretending I'm not a sucker, though. If they offered a higher-priced VIP that included expansions, I'd still be playing.
  

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Reply #133 - Nov 28th, 2018 at 11:52pm
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Tested EK builds.

18 Wizard/2 Monk. EK tier 5, TWF + VKF using Pain x2. Came in peaks of 34 seconds with lows of 40 seconds.

18/2Fighter SWF using Divinity. Twitch times of 55, and non-twitch at 60. Fetters would probably drop the times down to 46 seconds at best. 12 seconds behind a 2 level monk splash and vkf dagger.

  

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Reply #134 - Nov 29th, 2018 at 12:29pm
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Still , better then pure pally...
  
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Reply #135 - Nov 29th, 2018 at 12:35pm
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PT wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
Still , better then pure pally...

18/2 pally vkf would rival it. Less MP, equal dstrike, and burning through exalted smite.

The swash and EK tests show just how powerful VKF really is. And obviously the 1 or 2 levels of monk getting full stance benefits including ki rotations.
  

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Reply #136 - Nov 29th, 2018 at 2:56pm
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Have a go at pure?
The animation looks good on them at least
  

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Reply #137 - Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:25pm
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PT wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
Still , better then pure pally...


I’m pretty sure this has been the case since the release of ddo. 2009 and on for sure. I don’t understand why the devs can’t at least buff zeal and smite. Have a capstone with Improved Zeal. 50% doublestrike or something. Then buff smite to give crit multipliers depending on paladin level. So a pure paladin in endgame crits on a smite for like 100k or something. At least throw them a bone.
  

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Re: DPS Tests U39 Lama
Reply #138 - Dec 3rd, 2018 at 3:26pm
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Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
I’m pretty sure this has been the case since the release of ddo. 2009 and on for sure. I don’t understand why the devs can’t at least buff zeal and smite. Have a capstone with Improved Zeal. 50% doublestrike or something. Then buff smite to give crit multipliers depending on paladin level. So a pure paladin in endgame crits on a smite for like 100k or something. At least throw them a bone.


Pally had its day in the sun.
  

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