Was wondering what I should be shooting for effective Web as CC. I'm a 30 'Lock & was running the Ravenloft Chain @ R7 and have a save listed on it of 64. Virtually everything plowed right though my Webs. Basically ignored them no matter how many I laid down in an area..Got a CHA of 82, INT of 79, lots of Spell Pen and Conjuration DC Boosts. Sure my Evards and blasts fuck everything up, and twisting in Shiradi 'Stay Frosty' is hitting everything with hamstring/slow effect.. but Web is a non-factor to pretty much everything.

Web is a reflex save, so it's going to vary based on the quest specific mobs.   I'd say a 100 is probably going to work well in any content, even high reflex mobs.   If you are using web against low/average reflex mobs something in the 80's will probably suffice.

If you can't get your saves up super high, then you need to use the right spells for the right mobs.  Web for weak reflex mobs.  Hold for weak will save mobs (or Halt Undead).  Or Otto's if you are Fey pact.

Still, your web DC seems off for a level 30 lock.

At a Cha of 82, you are getting a +36 from casting stat.   

10 Base
9 Spell level (with heighten)
1 Wiz PL
2 Embolden
36 Charisma mod
1 Ship Buff
3 Exalted Angel
7 Enhancement Bonus (nightmother's sceptre)
4 Insightful Bonus    (Nightmother's Sceptre)
2 Exceptional (Augment)
=75

That's a lot better an only requires 1 gear item and an augment.  I'm assuming no cleric PL's (+3 more there) and that you are T5 in Soul Eater, not Tainted Scholar (+1 there).  Also assuming you are not primarily conjuration specced.  Probably evocation or necromancy (or possibly enchantment). 

You need a Slave Lords Sorcery set for +4 to all DC's and +2 to cha (another +1)

That gets you to 80.   Your cha is a little light.  I think you should be able to get to 90 or higher with a little effort.  That will bring in 4-6 more. Easily.   

20      base
7      levels
7      tome
2      racial
8      class
2      R-PL
1      reaper core
20      enhancement
9      insightful
1      exceptional
4      quality
2      artifact
2      airship
2      profane
3      Filigrees

90      

Here's a decent breakdown that does not include Completionist or Racial Completionist, but does include 4 racial PL (2 dragon born and 2 helf).  There is more you can do to get it to 100.  A lot of it depends on how you handle your twists and feats and such.  A few gearing options.  Theoretical sustained max is around 110 or so.  But that's sacrificing more effective uses for feats and AP and ED choices.   Theoretical situational max (using store pots, yugo pots, deneith pots, and other temp buffs) can be as high as 120 or so. 

ZooperDooper wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

Here's your problem.

ZooperDooper wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

When you list things which are irrelevant, it make me wonder if you even understand your character and the spells it casts.  Int on a warlock contributes to your spell power, and web doesn't care if you have a 1 or a 800.  Web doesn't have a spell pen check.

ZooperDooper wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

Twist in a t1 CHA and use a LGS salt weapon offhand for the same end result but a higher spell DC.  That's just 1 point, but since you're at 82 you have a lot more CHA you can find.

Also, Legendary Summoner's Spectacles, as I've pointed you at previously.

Asheras wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 9:31am:


They can be superseded pretty easily, true enough.  But what else is zoodoo going to wear, and he is all concerned about his web dc.  He obviously doesn't have an optimized gear set, his cha value shows that.  LGS seems like the only compelling goggle slot for a lock.