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MisterHank Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 62 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2014	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #50 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 7:49pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 7^th, 2018 at 2:24am: This is the most game breaking discovery ever discovered. im like prometheus teaching fire to a bunch of monkeys who cant grasp that every employee at ssg failed wildly with every basic place a block into its correct shape baby toy. without me you would all be getting cleaved, aoe'd, standing in squares thinking life is a circle.� im like moses to my people right now. leading them out the lie of the circle centric world ssg has created. i just red pilled the entire community. fucking neo in this bitch. look at the lines im taking. i dont even have to look, i already know im getting there on right line. I have never even seen a 1:13 before. I went straight to one fucking twelve. I like you.


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Petik Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 68 Joined: Sep 23^rd, 2016	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #51 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 6:50am	Print Post
	I assume its just optimization issue. When comparing distances doing math in metrics where point [1,1] and point [2,4] distance is "4" is far simpler than when the distance is "3,16..." The answer "4" is not 100% correct off course but its "good enough" and "3,16" is not 100% correct either because there are many more numbers after the 6. We cannot get "perfect circle" even if we wanted. The best we could do is polygon with many many many vertexes. I would say enjoy this aproximately 27,3% bigger AoE area with corners reaching 41,4% farther than circle could and exploit it if you can


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gibbon Dragon Raider Offline smhma in a cube Posts: 256 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2014	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #52 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 10:16am	Print Post
	DDONoob wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 4:10pm: This explains something I have noticed sometimes with spot skill. I have seen sometimes that I could see stealthed mobs further away from me to the sides, then they would dissapear when I turned to face them. Probably the same thing. This is because you have more rods than cones in the corners of your eyes. Rods have better low light vision so they let you see all the squares better. The symmetry manifests itself in the light of rubbins which reveals that all eyesballs in ddo are in fact eyecubes.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #53 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 11:46am	Print Post
	gibbon wrote on Jul 10^th, 2018 at 10:16am: This is because you have more rods than cones in the corners of your eyes. Rods have better low light vision so they let you see all the squares better. The symmetry manifests itself in the light of rubbins which reveals that all eyesballs in ddo are in fact eyecubes this man is my prophet

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #54 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	I bet time is cubed in DDO, too. Time. Cube.

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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #55 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Jul 10^th, 2018 at 2:49pm: Time. Cube. I don't see any gelatinous spheres, anyway.

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Dark_Helmet Wielder of the Schwartz Offline I hate you! Posts: 1176 Joined: Feb 14^th, 2010	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #56 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 2:26am	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Jul 10^th, 2018 at 4:32pm: I don't see any gelatinous spheres, anyway. You need to meet Cordo.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #57 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	Oracler wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 5:53am: Spell circles are drawn client-side. We can waste those few CPU clocks. Squares are server-side calculations that saves hundreds of resources Compare 2 values: 1<x<10 15<y<25 is much easier in CPU terms than ((x-10)^2+(y-25)^2)^0.5< 10 (and that's just on 2D plane) So if you love lags alot go for it and force SSG to implement circles server-side. Couldn't they split the difference and better approximate a circle with an octagon (or dodecagon or whatever)? Not that I expect them to change it... DDONoob wrote on Jul 9^th, 2018 at 4:10pm: This explains something I have noticed sometimes with spot skill. I have seen sometimes that I could see stealthed mobs further away from me to the sides, then they would dissapear when I turned to face them. Probably the same thing. I think draw distance works the same way. Objects at the edge will disappear if you look right at them (and reappear if you look aside).

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #58 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 2:52pm: Couldn't they split the difference and better approximate a circle with an octagon (or dodecagon or whatever)? If you die outside the bounds of a drawn octagon (or dodecagon or whatever), is it any better than dying outside the bounds of a circle/square??

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #59 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 4:03pm: If you die outside the bounds of a drawn octagon (or dodecagon or whatever), is it any better than dying outside the bounds of a circle/square?? What I'm saying is, if they changed the actual AoE from a square to a 5+ sided polygon, it will be less inaccurate compared to the displayed circle without consuming a circle's amount of resources. (The more sides, the less inaccurate, as in less total area outside the displayed circle that counts as the AoE.)

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #60 - Jul 12^th, 2018 at 1:25pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 4:24pm: What I'm saying is, if they changed the actual AoE from a square to a 5+ sided polygon, it will be less inaccurate compared to the displayed circle without consuming a circle's amount of resources. (The more sides, the less inaccurate, as in less total area outside the displayed circle that counts as the AoE.) If they changed the actual AOE to a circle it would solve all problems, wouldn't it? Making a 'slightly less inaccurate shape' is just a bandaid that doesn't stop the bleeding. And the clock cycles thing should just not be an issue. Since their data center move they are running with modern hardware in a vm environment.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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totallynotflimsy Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10 Joined: Jul 15^th, 2018	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #61 - Jul 16^th, 2018 at 4:53pm	Print Post
	ppl, thx for this info, really.


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #62 - Jul 16^th, 2018 at 5:07pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 10^th, 2018 at 11:46am: this man is my prophet A gibbon is your prophet. Telling.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5977 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #63 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 3:34am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 4:24pm: What I'm saying is, if they changed the actual AoE from a square to a 5+ sided polygon, it will be less inaccurate compared to the displayed circle without consuming a circle's amount of resources. (The more sides, the less inaccurate, as in less total area outside the displayed circle that counts as the AoE.) I believe modern games use smaller squares for server info. This game runs on really shitty internet.

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #64 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 10:57am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 4:24pm: What I'm saying is, [...] less inaccurate What you're saying is, less inaccurate is better somehow, because their is no way to achieve not inaccurate. And that is just bullshit.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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gibbon Dragon Raider Offline smhma in a cube Posts: 256 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2014	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #65 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2018 at 5:07pm: A gibbon is your prophet.� Telling. You must place the rubix cube in your butt, then meditate on the mysteries of the squares until spacetime folds on itself and they become cubes. Rubix + in yo butt = Rubbinns. I can solve mine without hands. You'll have to take my word for it because I can't get it back out.


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Tspoon Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 396 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2013	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #66 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 1:12pm	Print Post
	gibbon wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:57pm: You must place the rubix cube in your butt, then meditate on the mysteries of the squares until spacetime folds on itself and they become cubes. Rubix + in yo butt = Rubbinns. I can solve mine without hands. You'll have to take my word for it because I can't get it back out. We are all brown squares now....


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #67 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	gibbon wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:57pm: You must place the rubix cube in your butt gibbon wrote on Jul 17^th, 2018 at 12:57pm: I can solve mine without hands call me

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #68 - Jul 17^th, 2018 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	Quote: smhma in a cube Lo, the prophesy has been fulfilled.

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Suficient Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5 Joined: Apr 5^th, 2018	Re: PSA: Circle Radius Attack/Spell In DDO Are Squares Reply #69 - Jul 18^th, 2018 at 3:15am	Print Post
	Something a little less well known is that for melee, attack squares grow when moving. Test it by standing as far from training dummy as you can while still damaging, then move further away and attack only this time moving slightly side to side and see how much further away you can attack using this method. Turbine introduced this to combat latency issues while meele were attacking mobs on the run but it can be exploited and used it many situations.


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