Today in forum news, two of the most pro players on Cannith decided to start hitting each other with their horrible takes.

In the first corner we have Damonzz, warlock extraordinaire, famous on Cannith for his incredibly smooth runs that take place on no less impressive of a difficulty than r5(!!!!), finally coming to the realization that warlock is a terrible class for any respectable amount of skulls. His well reasoned solution to the problem of his character not being very good seems to have led to his request, nay insistence, that mass frog be changed to help him get a higher dc. Who could oppose such a logical request?

The guy in the other corner, that's who.

Enter Tilomare, the building equivalent to Shoemaker. That is, unassailable at the top of mount bullshit, screaming into the void. They say that those who listen closely to the wind in Korthos are blessed with the ability to understand the genius himself. If one isn't careful, though, those tantalizing whispers can lead to madness; those who fall under their spell babble incoherently about the benefits of soundburst and hybrid casters before proceeding to play builds that those of us who haven't spent enough time in Korthos lately aren't worthy of understanding. It's said that the only way to treat Tiloitis is to spend time in a padded room with the entirety of the thread that culminated in Tilo deleting his vault account written on the ceiling in halfling blood. Even patients of the top rated Tiloitis Institute in House Jorasco (which is of course the home of the wildly successful 1-2-3, no more sorc tanks for me rehab program. You know, the one that runs commercials during plays in the House Phiarlan Illusionarium?) have a more than 50% relapse rate if they're allowed to read Tilo's subsequent posts on the forums. Anyways, I might've gone off on a bit of a tangent, but it was necessary for you poor non-Cannith, non-forum-going sorts to understand the true significance of this unprecedented clash of titans.

Who will win, o unbiased vault brethren? Will it be the guy whose (admittedly difficult to read) argument solely consists of "I'm mad that people are better than me, so make me better" or the guy who believes in the supremacy of so-called "hybrid builds" and claims that he has some sort of secret dps build that he isn't allowed to share with us, the existence of which is proven by him linking a thread tantalizingly entitled "Possible to sustain 100k dps in reaper?" with a grand total of two posts and two words contained therein (those words being "del" and "phase", in case you were wondering). Is it a secret code that only his disciples can understand? Maybe! Is he asking how to multiproc ruin? Possibly! Is he hinting at something far more esoteric that would never even occur to the rest of us? Could be! We'll never know. We just aren't worthy.

Betting starts at 40/1 for Damonzz to win and 20/1 for Tilo to win because his English is better, he has minions, and he isn't asking for anything to be changed.

We're also accepting bets on how long the thread goes on before they wander off towards greener pastures and/or get so mad at each other that the thread gets shut down. Over/under is at 5 pages.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/498937-Mass-frog

Technomage wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 2:57pm:


I certainly hope nobody cares.

This one was more about the journey than the destination.

noamineo wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 3:23pm:


Much like the 2010 movie, this clash of the titans is unimpressive and not at all memorable. The only potential redeeming factor lies in the box office success, which is roughly analogous in this case to the amount of popcorn people will eat while blinking confusedly at the dreadful wisdom based pure barbarian build that Tilo pulled out of his seemingly endless bag of tricks. He named it a "Necro Barbarian" and described it as "a caster that could deal damage in reaper".

Tilo is like Mary Poppins; just when you think there can't possibly be any more stupid shit for him to pull out of that bag he goes ahead and proves you wrong just because he can.

Ah, tilo's super secret 100k dps build encoded into another build already posted by someone, but no one can decipher it. this is like the movie national treasure, and tilo gets to play nicholas cage. And if his super secret weapon-x build wasn't enough for you; he goes and builds the necro, dps caster, wisdom-based, barbarian build. He even breaks down the rotations of visage and frog comboing off every 32 seconds intervals in between dismissing rages to cast frog. 


it's a 2-fer-one of retardedness special on sale today.

First damonz is a fucking moron that can play only warlocks because it is a moronic class.

Second he can play r5 because instakills are a fucking cancer and the real cheese in this game.

3rd Tilo is a retarded.

ok i have nothing else to say.

Skoodge wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:


And what is respectable way to progress in reaper? Do all winged folks in cannith did r10 all quests around from their 5th reaper point? Heavily doubt it. There very few ways to collect some initial points: do pussy reaper - including all cheese classes: monk, warlock, barbarian, particulary wizard, ranger and fvs and skulls up to 4-5 both heroic and legendary. Another way is farm amber on 10 - way much more respectable huh? And doing high skulls with pugs meaning you are carrying them (so you play cheese anyway) or you letting folks to carry you (good way to farm huh?).

This game is old and not very populated. No chance to find and make perfect balanced group every time you want to play it, so yeah, its all about cheese. Funny to read someone complaining another man's cheese is better than his own. Instakills cancer huh? Twf with 3,5 attacks per animation isnt? Or 130+ DC dire charge, or 100 dodge or many-many more. You may laugh about this guy, yet I support him. Is he cheesing quests on r5 as his borelock? GJ, most are cheesing r1! Helping folks to get initial points by pugging it? Awesome! Want more cheese for an already cheesy as hell class? DIF.

His english though :-D I imagine some angry redneck with the full mouth

Rzyman wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:55pm:


If you go no matter what.  If you roll and don't wipe with half a group.  If you continue no matter what when one of the better players leaves to join a raid.

And none of those things apply to his groups outside of Mist.  I'll join his groups when there's no other RL groups, but how well the run goes totally depends on who's joining.  I've seen people carry those groups and it hasn't been the man himself.

I'd say he's an above average player at best but honestly, he just has a really old, powerful toon.  Give him a 1st life toon with no reaper points and he'd only be performing slightly better than any of the newbs fresh off the boat from Korthos.

He's not bad but he sure as fuck isn't a "warlock extraordinaire".

Skoodge wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 12:22am:


Oh dear. I'll be the first one to admit that only a handful of players in GODS are legitimately good and everyone knows that Zerg isn't what it used to be, but that diving gear comment leads me to suspect that you aren't talking about the randoms here.

Are you really trying to call out literally the only group of players on Cannith running high skulls and reaper raids? Can you please let me know who you are so I can tell the rest of the class why you aren't the right person to be passing judgement on those guys?

Skoodge wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 12:22am:


Well, okay, comment is funny I dont know this guy at all and his ability to play higher skulls ever as CC support\instakill (good geared warlocks actually can do so). And I dont know pugging situations in cannith (is there no noobs at all? Only vets running heroics?) Yet. Say, I've found I can make my rxp at 30 just running everything with bb on r8-10 and make 300k rxp per life without farming at all. If (and when) I'll start to clean my racials I wont run higher skulls heroics until I really get bored and want some fun. That what I actually did last several lifes: fuck higher heroic reaper cause why you have to struggle a week to get those 100-200k rxp when you can do 1-30 in 4-5 days  and get all rxp you need in legendary? Again, I dont know this guy at all, but he doesnt look cocky for me (and able to do higher skulls. If he was, he wont post stupid posts about mass frog and just use it properly on his turdlock), either leet or retard. He's a type of guy why-my-shit-doesnt-work consider to what he posted. So he is just doing his best, he's having fun I guess. Why the fuck no? Do you envy his pussy reaper points? 

Rzyman wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 1:22am:


Nah, well done to him.  I ran with him the 1st time I think about a year and a half ago.  Ran a chain and a half and dropped out of his group.  Didn't like his tactics, didn't like his team skills, didn't like what he was doing to my native tongue.  Only thing I liked about him was he keeps his own groups up, so I never had to worry about his joining mine.  He'd PM me a lot to come join his group, I'd politely decline.  No issues with how another player plays as long as they keep it out of my group (not that I put up that many groups, I mostly just soloed pussy reaper on my own).

My only complaint about anything in this thread is don't try and make this guy out like he's the fucking end all - because he isn't.

Pseudonym wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 2:19am:


Well, yeah.  I have no qualms with the guys running their formula one cars on the right track.  Nothing but respect for them.

But the guy who saved up to buy the same car, is running it on the go-cart track and not doing that great of a job with it?  Not so impressive   *

Pseudonym wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 2:19am:


I can be way off base here - I had a two and a half year gap and missed a lot of the server drama; but weren't both guilds founded by the same guy?  And don't you guys have a number of former Tribers in you guild now?

*Or if you're deep sea diving the gear doesn't look stupid, you need it.  It's the guys hanging out at the pool while wearing it that are as annoying as fuck.  Sorry about switching up analogies. 

Thats the problem with this game, before to do high level shit you required to be skilled.

Gear or build would help but was not required.

Now with power creep and the moronic cheese like warlocks, monks, charms, kiting, instakills, etc, any retarded can play in high level shit.

I think that is turdbin plan.

The problem is when you require half a brain like in some raids, those tards even with all pls, gear or 100 reaper points are fucking useless.

Skoodge wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 1:58am:


I would love to see someone complete an EE heroic quest.