No problem for me, ever since Steel tipped me to quarterstaves being the real DSP weapon for monks, that's all I use... so strong!  I'm crushing normal and even hard content all day yo.

Tspoon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:

the fact that they are lowering monk dps further when there were already numerous animal builds, tempests, rogues, barbs, and fighters all doing more dps, is kind of funny.

They dont know why monks are good. they dont really understand how to craft and execute optimal rotations, and yet they somehow have monks coming ahead of other builds. Can you imagine just how shitty they are with those other builds then?

One of the guys from cannith, and a khyber player all replied with what the devs should already know. the guys who replied are all end game players, doing high skull content and smashing shit. steel isnt going to hear any of it. they have their plan ; to save face from all the forum spammers crying about monks, while using purposely hidden metrics so no one can prove them wrong publicly.

Rickyretardo wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 4:08pm:

Cocomajobo

What I found amusing was Steel's reply about the broken "Ki Shout" which is currently using Intimidate not Concentration for it's skill basis like its supposed to. It worked for a VERY long time and since I haven't been doing a monk for awhile I am not sure when it did break but the implication that it's "It's not small" for a fix is awfully perplexing given that as far as I know the enhancement was never effected by gear that gave intimidate bonuses. I am just ponder what they have it tied too now that makes fixing that so difficult really.

Its just duplicating a current game skill using a different basis... I have no idea why it would have been messed with in converting wraps to weapons in the first place either given... well logic as far as how I would have coded something I just don't see a relationship off the top of my head where they really would have had to mess with the old version. but... Turdbin err SSG I guess...

It's also hilarious how they seem to not be able to watch the DPS test videos Symb and others are posting to actually gauge real world skills and uses. I mean it's the obvious clue train here...

Tspoon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 4:58pm:

Not even about monks anymore. At least not to me.

It is just such a blatant dismissal of the players that are left, who play the game at the highest levels this game offers. The devs need to stop that shit.

And it is not just one guild on one server here. There are many servers, with a bunch of guilds, that have highly skilled players and maxed ( or close to ) characters, and are pushing the limits of what is possible. Detailed tests, spreadsheets, direct statements, and videos as evidence, all being ignored in favor of the dev's internal dps testing.

The nerve of those lil niggas to even suggest that they could even perform a hidden test, to a fraction of the skill, nuance, and intelligence of what is being displayed, publicly, by the best players left in the game... 

Do they not know that ballpark doesn't work if the measure is to balance between comparison? Tests can be wildly off depending on numerous factors. The results from someone who cannot nail down rotations, build properly, and gear correctly will mean the difference of thousands of dps at the minimum. That level of ineptitude does not scale, so that ball park figures can be the weights which we are balancing on.

One of them is gearing, innocuous decisions like including improved deception in your dps test will raise the times more than your damage modifier item. Where a thf build would omit improved deception and a rogue would slot it. That needs to be accounted for, and the only way would be to time it with and without.

APM, monk in particular can arrange 2 to 3 basic ki strikes before the first comes off of cooldown. This matters more for light monk than dark, because light won't be using as many finishers as dark monk does. Then you can squeeze in around a full rotation of 6 ki strikes if executed perfectly, non-stop in a forever spam chain. But, the better rotation is to include fists of iron and triple earth finisher. Those 2 are slower in response time when clicked, and the finisher is even more finicky to time. Too fast and finisher is wasted, netting a loss over basic 6 ki attack rotation. They're not doing all that. Don't lie to yourself. 

Enhancements. The best kobold build will differ 5 to 10 seconds from what an in-game build needs to stay alive. I am going to assume they directly copied some of those characters from the videos. I am also going to assume they just maxxed all past live between builds to even that out.

The decision has already been made Steel (and Sev for that matter) get so butt burt when they get called out for being wrong they just stick their fingers in their ears and do stuff anyway. No amount of feedback is going to change their minds.

Justanotherlurker wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 6:39pm:



This is it exactly.  Many people could provide carefully explained feedback using real numbers and they would still ignore it due to pride or ignorance or both.

They don't even seem to know the names of the game mechanics they are changing.  What does this even mean:
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What does +1 to Attack mean?  Attack is a feat and a stance, and it doesn't have any numbers associated with it.  Adding +1 to it is meaningless.  Does he mean +1 to hit?  I'm just guessing.  Why should we have to guess?

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:


No.  He means +1 to your attack modifier.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Attack_bonus

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Attack_Roll

"To Hit" is not actually a thing anymore.  That died when THACO went away with third edition.  It is an Attack Roll.  With an attack modifier.

Your character sheet and weapons call it an Attack Modifier, as well.

Sigh, no one wants this shit (I don't play Monks btw). Why do they do it? (rhetorical question).

I can't wait to see the infraction I get for telling lynnabel to take away Steestar's login credentials.
But she did respond:
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 15^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:


While Lynnabel has proven capable of being a dumbass here or there, she's also proved capable of listening to feedback and blowback by players.

The only time Steelstar has changed his mind in the past 3-4 years; was adding Battlefist to Renegade Mastermaker. And I'd almost guarantee that's due to someone else in the office having made the code work while Steel was jerking off to his proposed changes as per usual.

From what I gather from Lynn's posts she has been working there for two years, first as an intern and now as a full time employee. I also gather that her capabilities don't extend far beyond fixing typos.

If a company sees fit to hire a full time 'dev' who after two years can't do anything but edit item descriptions, why would anyone expect any of the senior devs to be any good at their jobs?