You seem to be really underestimating just how massive the base damage increased between Riftmaker and Torn (or especially blackrazor) is.

Crit multi while extremely important isn't everything.

Riftmaker is 5[d12]+12 avg. 51 20/x4
Torn is 5[d12+6]+15 avg. 85 20/x3
Blackrazor is 7[2d6+4] +15 avg. 110 17-20/x2

Blackrazor and Torn are both clearly better than Riftmaker because of the massive base damage increase, 1+ multi isn't enough to compare to something that does twice the base damage and has a larger threat range anyways.

You have +3 threat (Ravager/imp crit.), + 1 multi (Kensai), I'm assuming you're running in dreadnought for +2 multi on axes on rolls of 19-20?

Torn or Blackrazor are both better options than riftmaker, another one to look at is Tail of the Scorpion.

Blackrazor is the easiest of them all to get by far (non-raid content unlike Torn, and WPM is actually run unlike the Archon pack).

I was gonna say, Blackazor on trash, Torn on bosses.  SpookyBoi beat me to it.

Fix your build first, then worry about what to swing.

t5 FB is much better than ravager now.

I use Thorn. 100K sentient gem. but The Overkill is not the Weapon himself. ist the Core 5 Thing. i Instakill 5 mobs in one Mass pk ^^

5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 11:25am:


His split is giving up FB capstone/t18/unnannyoing-rage for a better crit profile and a few feats. Ravager healing is still decent and in this split you get a crit multi.

It seemed as if Torn wants a straight 1 for 1 increase for threat and multipliers. Or a 2 threat for every 1 multiplier.

Torn basic. 81

Torn 1 range.  89

Torn 1 multiplier. 85

Torn 1 threat/ 1 multiplier. 96

Torn 2 multiplier. 89

Torn 2 threat. 96

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Oct 17^th, 2018 at 1:07pm:


Pure FB gets 15-20x4 with a falch and 17-20x4 with a greatsword. and a 19-20 multi from Death Frenzy.

Ravager + Kensei gets 17-20x4 with the great axe and 15-20x3 with a greatsword.

I guess specifically torn vs torn is better, barring Divine Crusader, but the FB capstone is nuts.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Oct 18^th, 2018 at 5:21pm:


Not much stacking speed. Its just 2handed fighting, but with 3x animal fighting feats which adds 12 doublestrike and 12 prr vs 2handed style.
And improved rage bonuses and basic spells from druid which compensates for loss of capstone somewhat.


Main problem is bear itself. For iconic its too big, messing with group play, blocking line of sight.

But on topic, I ditched Riftmaker. Now its blacrazor for trash, Torn for bosses if no vulnerability present.