How viable is a sorc EK if you go full tard and take a savant capstone (so your spellsword actually deals damage to everything).

I'm tempted to eat a +20 heart on my dragonborn life and mess with it, but I'm curious if anyone else has derped around before me.

If you go Air Savant/Blue Dragon you'd have pretty solid evo DCs and you'd have the electric loop SLA for some CC when you aren't dropping CCing breath attacks. But other than that, I'm not thinking it'd be all that great unless the new level 9 spells really do make that much difference. Alternatively acid is pretty solid as well and has decent gear built for it. And fire is well fire; useful for boosting your spell damage endgame wise and synergizes with DC instead of Draconic.

Ek imbues are different than arcane archer in that you get ALL the stances for the various elemental dmg types and can pick and choose which one you want to use situationaly. This is one of the strengths of the tree. Thus having a sorc capstone is not really necessary.

Careful stance switching can often get you double dmg on susceptible mobs as well which is nice.

If you're really maxing out imbue dmg then you need to go EK capstone right?  Your standard dmg is about 40% greater using captone than just having the level 18 core. That is without the temporary buff.  When the 30 second buff is in play it is well over double dmg and closer to 250% of regular once you take into account the force dmg added.  If the 10% boost to dmg applies to imbues as well then it will be closer to 300% of your standard dmg during that 30 second buff time!

Leveling a pure wiz/vistani now and it sucks at low levels but we'll see as the scaling is so bonkers.

Ok sorry for the delay but here's my update.  I'm now level 15 and it's starting to get strong....real strong.

Early levels I was super weak especially on defense.  I wasn't smart enough to take some undead and just heal through everything until i was like level 8.  Since the EK tree gives so much universal spellpower (way over 100) the undead healing is really strong.

Anyways the imbue scaling is real.  At level 9 i started to feel decent strong, at 12 I started leading kill counts.  Just hit 15 and it's one more die and it's a ton of dmg. 

For numbers I'm at 478 acid spell power at level 15.  My imbues are 5d8 or 22.5 base average dmg.  Times this by 5.7 and I average 130 dmg per swing (on elite).  Now 2 wpn fighting with 2 two daggers with 60% offhand strike chance (impr 2 wpn figting only due to low BAB) and about 45% dbl strike and the imbues are doing a ton of dmg.

However, the scaling I'm about to hit is just nuts.  At 18 I go to 6d10 or 33 base dmg (50% over what i'm currently at).  Then 20 will get me 7d12 or 45.5 base for damn near another 50% increase.  I'm pretty much giddy thinking about it being over twice the imbue dmg i'm doing right now AND that doesn't account for the temporary boost which should put it just into crazy high land. 

I'll update once i hit cap but right now this thing is about as strong as my monk/druid wolf which I would've never thought possible. Early levels no way as strong but man does it come on at the end.

Running wiz, full int based, right now have EK maxed out and int to hit (but str to dmg) and just one level of KTA and the 20% doublestrike from Vistani.  Running in Vampire shroud and just power healing through R3 content solo with little problem.  Well, light casting mobs ARE a problem and I have to play carefully around them.

Ok sorry for long delay. I had my ups and downs with this build but in the end I'm rating it VERY strong.  It just is so magnified by gear. 

I usually just gimp along until level 29 when I can get all my RL gear and during that time build wasn't feeling so strong.  Not gimp by any means as I could comfortably solo EE but wasn't working too hot on Reaper settings.

Hit 29/30 and omg the clouds parted and rays of damage and even survivability came down from the heavens.  I am using both Mists of Ravenloft 5 piece set and 3 piece Beacon of Magic set.  With this set up and all buffs I am hitting 1200 fire spell power consistently (can peak at 1300!).  With the Fire Legendary feat (2d20 fire dmg that scales) i'm doing on average 67 fire dmg base without Capstone buff and 92 with. Times these by 13 for spellpower and I'm doing 871 to 1196 extra fire dmg per attack.  While 2 wpn fighting and with doublestrike it adds up.

Also have about a 92 int right now which is enough to CC most mobs if you pick the right save in Legendary R2 or R3. 

Finally, I am a wraith as you suggested and if i do some gear swaps (and hit Wellspring of power) I am casting my Death Aura's at about 1200 spellpower.  This allows me to quite easily tank Legendary R2 to R3 as the healing is just so strong it overpowers reaper debuff. 

I am missing some gear like the Legendary Cursekeeper neg healing trinket from Age of Rage and I am currently not using a sentient weapon (Main hand Vulkoor's Edge, off hand legendary planar spike for those delicious random crits on my Tier 5 cleave).  If I was to get the Cursekeeper trinket and sentient my weapon I could almost double my self healing and either get Prowess set or 15d6 more fire dmg and 50 more fire spellpower.

I think with those improvements this guy could easily solo R4 perhaps R5 Legendary content at relatively fast speeds. Like, no needing to sit and wait for all sorts of timers to come back up or anything, regularly plowing through type speeds.

I don't know about you guys but anything that can solo that type of difficulty (and broad based too, not just certain quests) is extremely powerful to me.  Honestly the only build I think I would perhaps rate stronger is the Wis based Wolf/monk I was talking about on these forums last month. 

I might post a full build and if i do I'll link it here.

Edit: Oh shit forgot to mention the "blasting" part of the build.  The improvements to dmg on spells makes them well worth mixing in to the rotation. You really do have to swing/swing/spell to maximize the build.  My general lazy rotation is my EK special attacks mixed in with Meteor Swarm and Acid Well which both are putting out pretty awesome AoE dmg when you're looking at 1200 fire spell power and 1100 acid giver or take 100. 

harharharhar wrote on Dec 31^st, 2018 at 2:30pm:


Oh ya i have int to hit and dmg and KTA of course.  I'll put it in big build write up but 44 or so in EK, 22 i think in PM and 14 in harper?  Picking up extra int here and there.

I know for a fact more dmg would be no Pale Master and put those points into Vistani but on an Elf which is the race i needed to do I can't self heal other ways.  Also once spell power gets that high the undead self healing gets pretty op.

I have never recorded video and might look into that. Can post some screenshots I guess.

The durability at cap is pretty....surprising. Since you're running the "touch range only" stance in EK there's no reason not to turn on the epic defensive fighting feat as well which gives you that extra 30% hp.

Anyways I'll get around to posting full build soon. Gear layout worked out better than I expected.

most people record and upload to youtube

looks sweet. I figured that t5 would be good to add to Fury, but what would you do with adrenalines the rest of the time?

Please post build details and gear maybe every 5 level ranges

divine crusader seems decent, tho the SLA T6 is Wisdom based for some reason