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Re: Viable Tempest splits other than full 20 Ranger?
Reply #25 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:47pm
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Meursault wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:28pm:
They do, I picked up Deep Gnome for 323 DP a few months back. But I can't remember (and can't be bothered to look up) when Deep Gnome was released relative to Scourge, you may have a bit of a wait yet.


Yea, but deep gnome is available via MOTU/Shadowfell. Aasimar scourge and bladeforged are not.
  
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Re: Viable Tempest splits other than full 20 Ranger?
Reply #26 - May 1st, 2019 at 10:46am
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ManyCookies wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
Why DI?

With a x4 crit multiplier, isnt an additional 5% crit chance effectively 15% more damage on average? That should be much more than what DI gets you.


Mainstat Wis is probably about 100.

100 Wis is a +45 mod

So we expect DI to add 22.5 base damage.

22.5/15=1.5
1.5*100=150

So we need to have a base damage (before crits, MP, etc) of greater than 150 before 15%>22.5

Since 7[d8+3] (52.5) + 45 Wis + 20 deadly + 10 ins deadly + 4 quality deadly + 18 enhancement = 149.5...it is close, so it could go either way in practice.

But...DI also adds 22.5 DC to your tactics instead of just damage, so that seems like the obvious choice.
  

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Re: Viable Tempest splits other than full 20 Ranger?
Reply #27 - May 1st, 2019 at 4:43pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 10:46am:
Mainstat Wis is probably about 100.

100 Wis is a +45 mod

So we expect DI to add 22.5 base damage.

22.5/15=1.5
1.5*100=150

So we need to have a base damage (before crits, MP, etc) of greater than 150 before 15%>22.5

Since 7[d8+3] (52.5) + 45 Wis + 20 deadly + 10 ins deadly + 4 quality deadly + 18 enhancement = 149.5...it is close, so it could go either way in practice.

But...DI also adds 22.5 DC to your tactics instead of just damage, so that seems like the obvious choice.


But you also lose Killer, is it worth it?
  
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Re: Viable Tempest splits other than full 20 Ranger?
Reply #28 - May 1st, 2019 at 6:25pm
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ManyCookies wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:47pm:
Yea, but deep gnome is available via MOTU/Shadowfell. Aasimar scourge and bladeforged are not.

I think you got that backwards, it's Bladeforged not Deep Gnome you can (or at least could as pre-order bonus?) get through Shadowfell.

SC & BladeForged Update 19 https://ddowiki.com/page/Update_19_Release_Notes
Deep Gnome Update 30 https://ddowiki.com/page/Update_30_Release_Notes
Scourge Update 36 http://www.ddo.com/en/update-36-patch-3-release-notes
  

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Re: Viable Tempest splits other than full 20 Ranger?
Reply #29 - May 2nd, 2019 at 2:52pm
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DnD wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 4:43pm:
But you also lose Killer, is it worth it?


Sharn will probably add 9-10% doublestrike. You should be able to cap it without Killer.


  

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Reply #30 - May 2nd, 2019 at 4:14pm
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DnD wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 4:43pm:
But you also lose Killer, is it worth it?

of course not
  
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Re: Viable Tempest splits other than full 20 Ranger?
Reply #31 - May 2nd, 2019 at 4:14pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 2:52pm:
Sharn will probably add 9-10% doublestrike. You should be able to cap it without Killer.



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