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Poll Question: Sharn Gear thoughts
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Sharn gear is shit    
  7 (11.9%)
This expansion loot is shit    
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Lynnabel is shit    
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I'm a tank, my opinion is invalid.    
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My sock wanted to vote    
  5 (8.5%)
Donuts    
  36 (61.0%)




Total votes: 59
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Sharn gear thoughts
May 3rd, 2019 at 6:09pm
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Not a high opinion of it as of the posting of this poll.
  

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Reply #1 - May 3rd, 2019 at 7:11pm
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Besides the minor artifacts (which are probably all usable) these are the items that seem usable across particular builds:

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Cracked Core Raid Necklace
Minimum Level: 29
Insightful Constitution +10
Quality Constitution +5
Soundproof
Alchemical Conservation This item modifies the user's energy expenditure in such a way that many abilities can be used more frequently than normal. You will gain +1 ki on every successful attack, and you will increase the number of Action Boosts, Turn Undead attempts, and Bard Songs you can use per rest by 1 each. These additional uses will only take effect after you rest.


+1 Ki gen is nice and an action boost is nice. The insightful and quality con on one item are also nice. Fleetfoot is not mandatory IMO.

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Umber Brim Helmet
Minimum Level: 15/29
Improved Quelling Strikes
Accuracy +12/+33
Insightful Deception 3/8
Profane Attributes +1/+2


Quelling strikes can be useful on relevant bosses with multiple people using it in a raid. The other stats on the helm are fine.

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Molten Adamantine Gauntlets Raid Gloves
Minimum Level: 29
Pierce Adamantine
Insightful Accuracy +16
Doublestrike +24%
Action Boost Enhancement This will increase the total number of Action Boosts you can use by 3. However, these additional Action Boosts will only take effect after the wielder rests.


Out of the box decent swap for the molten silver gauntlets.

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Hammerfist Gloves
Minimum Level: 15/29
Doublestrike +9/+23
Cannith Combat Infusion Your ranged and melee attacks have a chance to cause this item to inject a Cannith Combat Infusion into your bloodstream. For the next ten seconds, this will grant a +4 Alchemical bonus to Strength, Constitution and Dexterity, as well as a 5% Alchemical bonus to your chance to doublestrike and a +2 Alchemical bonus to Armor Class.
Seeker +8/+21


Out of the box decent swap for the molten silver gauntlets. Cannith Combat infusion is great.

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Crystalline Gauntlets Raid Gloves
Minimum Level: 29
Magical Sheltering +55
Insightful Magical Sheltering +27
Spell Absorption +20 20 Charges. (Recharged/Day: 10)
Quality Potency +39


Spell absorb is always bueno.

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Nightshade Shooter Light Crossbow
Vorpal
Poisonous 4d6/9d6
Nightshade Venom Any creature struck by this weapon must succeed on a Difficulty Check 22 Fortitude save or fall unconcious. The target may attempt a new save to end the effect every several seconds; otherwise the sleep lasts for 20 seconds./Twining Hemlock This weapon is poisoned with a deadly strain of flowering plant. Hits by this weapon have a chance of putting your foe to sleep.
Wounding 2/5


Good CC weapon similar to the lvl 20 repeater's nightshade venom.

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Hoarfrost, Herald of the Bitter Ice Dwarven War Axe
Upgrade Effect: Fetters of Unreality
Legendary Freezing Ice On hit, this has a chance of freezing your enemies in solid ice. Struck enemies must make a DC 100 Fortitude save or be frozen
Chilling 10d6
Adamantine


Probably BIS Daxe for people who wanna do that.

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The Fractured Elegance Scimitar
Upgrade Effect: Sovereign Vorpal
Keen V
Glass Shards This weapon is made of fragile glass and will shatter on impact, inflicting a bleed effect on targets vulnerable to bleeding. This bleed deals 2d10 damage per stack every two seconds, lasts for 20 seconds, and can stack up to 100 times.
Spiked This weapon is studded with vicious spikes, causing it to deal piercing damage in addition to its normal damage types.


Gives you pierce DR if you only take IMP crit slashing on a TWF tempest.

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The set bonuses will also change gear for DPS builds.
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Nightshade xbow dc is shit for real gaming, probably fine for lower epics.

the new gear sets are a great way to lower dps, go test on the dummy with a new gear layout, see if you beat your times.

  

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The fact that you can get quality stats without needing to farm Slavers seems like a huge plus as it is.

Was in a party with a guy a few days ago who was raving about how the sharn gear basically made slavers obsolete.
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Im looking forward to having level 15 gear to wear until 29 instead of wearing level 10 gear until 29.
  
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I will change exactly mmm zero pieces of gear on my monk. Way to go Sharn. Roll Eyes
  
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Cripey wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 7:54pm:
Nightshade xbow dc is shit for real gaming, probably fine for lower epics.




The DC is shit so its 5% for knockdown which is as good as balanced attacks.
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still playing with dc gear, running some r10s seeing some saves against a 124 but 128 seems to always work.  (these were fort saves) 124 dc greater command hit 99% few champs had to cast twice.

missing +2 profane until I get a reaper stats under brim.

If i keep in 2 slave lords pieces and dont change weapons from live to sharn i can make a semi non shitty divine set.

Need to mess with Arcane. overall caster gear is trash.

Looks like, maybe, and who gives a shit, ranged gear might work out so we might be back to that shit. I hope sharn doesnt take us back to every shitter with a shuri or xbow will start posting r10 vids acting good.

melee is hit or miss, monks look fucked, rangers maybe do ok? not high on my give a shit list tbh.

Tanking will be interesting, not posting what we are seeing yet until we run more saturday night.

the r10s are fun, my favorite mob are exploding spiders! easy to deal with when you know how to handle em, clueless melee are gon be fucked!!!!
  

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Cripey wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 11:33pm:
I hope sharn doesnt take us back to every shitter with a shuri or xbow will start posting r10 vids acting good.

The ranged gear is outstandingly good in comparison with every thing else.

Artifacts are going to flop for dps builds. Very few will opt to not equip that broken af ring. Because it is only one of 2 items that give quality deadly and accuracy. The other is a bracer with Strength stat, but melees wont wear it unless they have 100 doublestrike without Packbanner on. And even in those cases, that build will still probably want to use the ring for those stats. Same for ranged dps.

Lynn needed to either place insightful doublestrike on some other item in sharn, which doesnt fix the ring's artifact monopoly for ranged. A more elegant solution would be to place quality deadly and accuracy on a 3rd item, anywhere but ring or bracers... It is not even a tough choice and goes against their bullshit mantra they throw out when confronted with weak loot design.

There could be some compromise on gear sets with inferior items that have insightful doublestrike 7 on a necklace, and 9 on a helm. The necklace is pretty much dead as it kills the new Family set bonus. Helms are hard to give up for only an insightful dstrike slot because the bracers cover insightful con as well as having higher dstrike value.

I am betting Lynn's fix is getting insightful doublestrike on trinkets in the next pack because Sharn is missing trinkets as Ravenloft missed helmets. Which still means all ranged builds will stick with the Artifact ring. Good Job.
  

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DPS is higher with avenger
  
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yardarm_ wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 5:29am:
DPS is higher with avenger


Is that a blanket statement? I feel like certain classes where they have enhancements that boost DPS for medium armor are going to be better off swapping.

IE: Barbarian and FVS for the melee power/doublestrike-damage boost.
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Edrein wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:40am:
Is that a blanket statement? I feel like certain classes where they have enhancements that boost DPS for medium armor are going to be better off swapping.

IE: Barbarian and FVS for the melee power/doublestrike-damage boost.


It's an incorrect statement.
  
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IDK..... I tried a few things with the new gear and my dps went down significantly. Didn’t get much time, and will have to try and retool some stuff, but not looking good imo.
  
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Cripey wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 11:33pm:
I hope sharn doesnt take us back to every shitter with a shuri or xbow will start posting r10 vids acting good.


With the amount of safespots that I saw in the quests, with a little practice these quests look mighty soloable.
  
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Asheras wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 10:32am:
It's an incorrect statement.


I figured; still trying to figure out Constellation and it's two alternatives though.

Per my testing it felt like the curse proc is awful and despite wearing the new helmet for quelling strikes; I couldn't ever get the evil damage to proc.

On the flip side the wraps look neat. Really makes me wish we had a sort of pugilist universal tree or that flurry of blows/unarmed strike was a purchasable feat like in tabletop. Especially now that handwraps are an exotic weapon feat.
  
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Ha. My endgame dwarfen ravager wil be happy.  Kiss
  
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Edrein wrote on May 5th, 2019 at 4:28pm:
Per my testing it felt like the curse proc

They are. The procs are too random to be of use reliably. Dust proc is only one stack and for it to come out you need to go through infinite procs of other things. Even a party of dps using the curse weapons wouldnt get dust stacked up. The other procs are useful, namely ooze, and various cc procs for trash.

Lyn is putting insightful doublestrike on one of the family set items. My guess is raid necklace makes most sense. And we are getting ghostly on one of the rings. I know for a fact that putting Quality Deadly and Quality Accuracy on a 3rd item would have made artifact gearing way more dynamic than it is now, but w/e, not like these devs can build a gear set or test anything.
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Rubbinns wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 10:48am:
They are. The procs are too random to be of use reliably. Dust proc is only one stack and for it to come out you need to go through infinite procs of other things. Even a party of dps using the curse weapons wouldnt get dust stacked up. The other procs are useful, namely ooze, and various cc procs for trash.

Lyn is putting insightful doublestrike on one of the family set items. My guess is raid necklace makes most sense. And we are getting ghostly on one of the rings. I know for a fact that putting Quality Deadly and Quality Accuracy on a 3rd item would have made artifact gearing way more dynamic than it is now, but w/e, not like these devs can build a gear set or test anything.

I still prefer the old avenger set and fleetfoot necklace and you don't really need insightful doublestrike because on a scourge tempest with reaper strike it's already overkill
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The change she made to the onyx ring just made it a must have dc caster item

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Cripey wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 5:55pm:
The change she made to the onyx ring just made it a must have dc caster item


I'm more excited at the underyling message she's been hinting at about the PM revamp.

As the poor bastard that's been trying his damnedest to get various changes done for PM and PM splashes (The Sustaining Song change was one of my pet projects while on the PC) I'm super excited to hear that she's the one seemingly spearheading the work rather than Steelstar.

Not to mention she's admitted that PM gear is niche and should get it's own attention; with specific mention to undead melees. So I'm excited.

That being said; idk if I'd have made that ring the way she did. It's BiS and practically required by every caster now.
  
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The new sets really have got everything in them: ds, ins ds, deadly, ins deadly, armor piercing, seeker, true seeing, cannith combat infusion, relentless fury...This is pure power creep

Everyone will wear 3 piece set+1 ring+artifact+community goggles. Done!
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lazarus wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 7:18am:
The new sets really have got everything in them: ds, ins ds, deadly, ins deadly, armor piercing, seeker, true seeing, cannith combat infusion, relentless fury...This is pure power creep

Everyone will wear 3 piece set+1 ring+artifact+community goggles. Done!


combat infusion doesn't stack dumbass and avenger shits on family also you loose knockdown from the necklace and some other things so how does it have everything  Cheesy
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lazarus wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 7:18am:
The new sets really have got everything in them: ds, ins ds, deadly, ins deadly, armor piercing, seeker, true seeing, cannith combat infusion, relentless fury...This is pure power creep

Everyone will wear 3 piece set+1 ring+artifact+community goggles. Done!



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lazarus wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 7:18am:
The new sets really have got everything in them: ds, ins ds, deadly, ins deadly, armor piercing, seeker, true seeing, cannith combat infusion, relentless fury...This is pure power creep

Everyone will wear 3 piece set+1 ring+artifact+community goggles. Done!

Sharn gear may have higher DPS, but there's less PRR and MRR.
  
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have worked out both dps and tank gear sets with related builds, they are much better than ravenloft sets.
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Cripey wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 9:20am:
Have you even built a set on lamania or are you a fuck monkey talking out your ass based on what's posted.

  
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