Jesus... Is Alchemist really on the drawing board for a class? Makes me glad completionist is now a moot stretch goal.

It was my understanding that Alchemist was Pathfinder's answer to Artificer, and was broken even in that rule set (it's an almost mandatory splash for Vivisectionist in Pathfinder: Kingmaker).

FML.They could have shit out Shaman or Duelist or even recycled some of the less retarded 4e classes for more fun and with better results. But they painted themselves into a corner because they made prestige enhancements out of entire classes (Swashbuckler) and other options like Sword Mage are done because Eldritch Knight is too similar.

This is right up there with the Drow Variant race they're plotting because exactly NONE people want another Elf variant and are screaming for Dwarf but hey... ROCKSTARZ.

I guess they really wanted an excuse to get grenade-style weapons into the game... Which is hilarious because those mechanics don't work for shit unless you're a Kobold slinger hurling stones from another fucking time zone 

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:25am:

In Kingmaker, Vivi is broken because it combines sneak dice progression with almost all of the best self buff spells. In DDO, we have every thing, that would make that class op in paper or kingmaker, on a scroll or a clicky.

Not too exciting for us. Maybe grenade lobbing could be good. Various cc effects, AoE at range, and a good amount of dice that scales with spell power is probably what they do.

Snu Snu wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:41am:


Okay...so they don't know what they are talking about.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 10:02am:

That looks to be literally true.

https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Alchemist_(3.5e_Class)

If you guys are going to take shots at SSG, at least make sure you're not going to look like the stupid bitter shits you are and do a 3 second google search before you climb on eachother's dicks.

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FYI, dnd-wiki.org is full of (terrible) homebrew.

I could log on there right now and invent a class called the "Five Foot Stepper" That can cast every spell, take infinite 5 foot steps, and gains over 9000 dexterity every level.

Here's a better source:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?550696-Truly-Complete-list-of-3-5e...

Edrein wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

yeah, it is homebrew.
there's no "Alchemist" class in PnP 3.5
there might be some prestige classes with alchemist in name, for example Master Alchemist
http://dnd.arkalseif.info/classes/master-alchemist/index.html

here's some good info about Alchemist in DnD across versions
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Alchemist

Edrein wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 3:21pm:


I don't know if this was irony or not.

I don't really know the site. However, when I was searching for info about WPM few months ago, I found there pretty great summaries how the sentient weapons evolved across editions.

And Alchemist seems also covered very well, and it also includes very recent information.

So in two out of two cases, it served me well.

crunch wrote on Jun 28^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

Ask 1d4chan.

/tinfoil hat on

So am I the only one who noticed that two of the last three Universal Trees have been heavily skewed to suit Artificer... and that the last 2 consecutive expansions had exclusively Construct Hirelings?

And now the new Alchemist class which is potion-bomb based that will dove-tail into ﹰArtificer?

And the only guy who gave an intentional confirmation on alchemist is the dev who plays Artificer?

Coincidence?

Maybe They should let another kid have a turn at the keyboard next update. We might actually get some relief for melee or (God forbid) DC casters.

/tinfoil hat off

Not disapointed, I had no expectations. Just some garbage SSG is putting out to grab cash from everyone who wants to keep completionist.

Edrein wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 2:05pm:


What are you talking about? Melee is the most powerful playstyle since ravenloft, and the prediction is that they keep getting more and more ahead and dps grows more than trash hps

So based on the fact Lynabel stated that the following set is designed around the new class let's get to speculating:

Profane Experiment Set

    Heroic Set Bonus: +2 Sneak Attack Dice, 5% Doublestrike and Doubleshot, +2 INT, +2 CON, +25 Universal Spell Power
    Epic Set Bonus: +3 Sneak Attack Dice, 15% Doublestrike and Doubleshot, +4 INT, +4 CON, +50 Universal Spell Power

Researcher's Leathers - Light Armor (same as sharn armor)
Experiment Garb - Outfit (same as sharn armor)
Sea Legs - Boots - Water Breathing + Swim (scaling version of Underwater action, basically), Ghostly, Doublestrike, Seeker
Lenses of the Dark Depths - Goggles - Quality Assassinate, UMD, Blindness Immunity, Speed
Experimenter's Goggles - Goggles - Search, Spot, Open Lock, Disable Device

5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 31^st, 2019 at 10:28am:

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.

I can't think of one single aspect of play that Alchemist brings to the table and makes fun.