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Will FoTW acrobats be a thing in update 43?
Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:33am
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Double vorpal  range > knockdown on vorpal > 2 target attacking after tumble?

Would give some pretty beastly helpless % and adrenaline recharge.

Probably want 20x3 raid staff for adrenaline.

If you wanted self healing for soloing, bf or healing hands?
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Staves are the melee equivalent of bows.
  
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bloom is better but staves are generally shit
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 10:25am
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I had a lot of fun knocking everything on their butts with my staff build acrobat.  They're a blast...if you want to solo R1.  If you want to do anything else in reaper you should pretty much do anything else Tongue
  

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Reply #4 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am
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hrmm r10 viable TA build, challenge accepted.
  

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Reply #5 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 11:59am
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Cripey wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am:
hrmm r10 viable TA build, challenge accepted.

I'd really like to see that!
  

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Cripey wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 10:28am:
hrmm r10 viable TA build, challenge accepted.

Go wild and consider Henshin or other trees too.  Like bows, it's not AA (or TA) that's the problem but the staff itself.  Also, bring a spare staff.  You'd think when Steelstar proclaimed Henshin staff builds to be #7 on the top DPS list before Monk nerfs in '18, he would have addressed the durability issue.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:36pm
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Carpone wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Go wild and consider Henshin or other trees too.  Like bows, it's not AA (or TA) that's the problem but the staff itself.  Also, bring a spare staff.  You'd think when Steelstar proclaimed Henshin staff builds to be #7 on the top DPS list before Monk nerfs in '18, he would have addressed the durability issue.


The Staff of Shadow has a hardness of over 10,000. That means it's nigh-indestrucible. Unfortunately, it's not a very good staff.

Legendary Moonbeam, however, is a great staff but its hardness is only 39.  Angry
  

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Reply #8 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:41pm
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HelloKitty wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:33am:
Double vorpal  range > knockdown on vorpal > 2 target attacking after tumble?


Double Vorpal Range in Fury of the Wild?

How?

I'm not seeing it.
  

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Reply #9 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:59pm
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ED update 43. They adding double vorpal in FoTW for 2h.

Figure between 100% DS, 2 target attacks, extra QStaff faster attacks, and double vorpal range you will be churning out knockdowns from adrenaline and capstone like tic-tacs.

Triple endless night augments in Staff of Shadow?
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Technomage wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:36pm:
The Staff of Shadow has a hardness of over 10,000. That means it's nigh-indestrucible. Unfortunately, it's not a very good staff.

Legendary Moonbeam, however, is a great staff but its hardness is only 39.  Angry


Meticulous weaponry from falconry helps with staff durability quite a bit. just did house j r10s with one using LD. I m using moonbeam but i think i want the KT one for the crit multi.

the animations and attack speed are fun as shit, trips everywhere, pemanent 100% doublestrike atm not using any boosts or clickys.

could be stronger after u43 changes

edit - just lessered into pure TA, tossed some gear on and ran jouse j r10s, not the best measure. I want to tweak the gear a a bit after running those and hit sharn r10s for a better benchmark.

overall thoughts assassin beats its ass in single target but the ghetto DoD from capstone and trips are pretty huge. Attack speed is great, near wolf melee speed altho less dps than silvanus wolfs. 3500 hps ish in reaper with good saves and 250-300 prr depending on what buffs you have going.

going to play with gear and fili layout over next day or so see what i can do to make it better

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Reply #11 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:20pm
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Cripey wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 1:18pm:
pure TA,

Not in game builds, but I did dps test pure 20 TA, and a 12F/6M/2TA. This was last year.
http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1529456087/112#112

The Kensei split had way faster dps times.
  

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Reply #12 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:24pm
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HelloKitty wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:59pm:
ED update 43. They adding double vorpal in FoTW for 2h.

Figure between 100% DS, 2 target attacks, extra QStaff faster attacks, and double vorpal range you will be churning out knockdowns from adrenaline and capstone like tic-tacs.

Triple endless night augments in Staff of Shadow?

Ah...thanks.

Yeah, triple Endless Night augments could be fun.
  

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Reply #13 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:34pm
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HelloKitty wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:59pm:
ED update 43. They adding double vorpal in FoTW for 2h.


Sorry, still not seeing it.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/506113-2019-ED-Pass-Primal-Sphere?p=62...

Edited:
Hmmm...looks like Steel said he was just "considering" adding something to double the Vorpal range.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/506113-2019-ED-Pass-Primal-Sphere?p=62...


Edited:
And Lynnabel said it was tentatively in the tree.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/506113-2019-ED-Pass-Primal-Sphere?p=62...

I hope it made it in in the final version. That would be cool.
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Would the 30 durability from Stone of Change help? Or is that not enough?
  
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Would the 30 durability from Stone of Change help? Or is that not enough?

I think it's more about Hardness than Durability.
  

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Technomage wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:14pm:
I think it's more about Hardness than Durability.


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kum-gulp wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:12pm:
Would the 30 durability from Stone of Change help? Or is that not enough?



Staff of Shadows is indestructible, everything else will fall apart regardless of what you do to it.
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HelloKitty wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 5:05pm:
everything else will fall apart regardless of what you do to it.



this part is false, you can test it in game running meticulous weaponry. I literally did 5 r10s in a row without repairing using only the Moonbeam.
  

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Cripey wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 5:12pm:
this part is false, you can test it in game running meticulous weaponry.

What's the difference between Meticulous Weaponry and Item Defense in the Stalwart Defender tree?
  

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Carpone wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Go wild and consider Henshin or other trees too.  Like bows, it's not AA (or TA) that's the problem but the staff itself.  Also, bring a spare staff.  You'd think when Steelstar proclaimed Henshin staff builds to be #7 on the top DPS list before Monk nerfs in '18, he would have addressed the durability issue.


Tiefling Henshin is surprisingly fun. Being able to strip fire immunity before dropping cauldron and the like makes for decent supplementary DPS. Whether or not that'd be R10 appropriate is up to debate.
  
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Technomage wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 5:25pm:
What's the difference between Meticulous Weaponry and Item Defense in the Stalwart Defender tree?


Probably nothing, except I don't have stalwart defender on pure rogue TA ;/
  

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Probably nothing, except I don't have stalwart defender on pure rogue TA ;/

Well, yeah. I'm looking at a 12Ftr/6Monk/2Rog build, though.
  

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Cripey wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 5:12pm:
this part is false, you can test it in game running meticulous weaponry. I literally did 5 r10s in a row without repairing using only the Moonbeam.


Ahh, haven't run a stick build since falconry came out. It's been a bit in the making for staves to not just crumble, so now I have to see what a pure acrobat is like!

I'm thinking healing hands, because it works out perfectly with 6 ap vkf, 7 ap aasimar, 41 ap stick, 26 ap falconry for trance and more helpless?

Was thinking a first life alt. Hmm it sounds much more appetizing to lvl one TY!
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Reply #24 - Jul 23rd, 2019 at 3:28pm
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I am not going to stay on this build, just did it for the lols.

1. It is fun, the animations are great.

2. Kinda beefy for a rogue, more survivability than even my assassin who i thought was tough. Monk levels of dodge with higher MRR than monk and around 300 prr depending on buffs.

3. Decent cc, can juggle Dire charge and sweeping strikes, and trips from capstone. Fell. the oak on moonbeam was icing on the cake

4.Not top DPS, an assassin will out DPS you single target and has insta kills on the side

summation, definatley r10 viable, if you want max dps you wont like it but it isn't shit, u43 opens up lots of options both with shadowdancer changes and Fotw changes
  

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