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Reply #50 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:47am
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Hardcore League is a limited time event, open for 90 days, starting August 16, 2019. You can play on a special perma-death server with some additional rules.

    Basic rule: If you're dead, you're dead. No self-raises, no Raise Dead, no res shrines.
    All characters start at level 1, even iconics.
    You cannot transfer to this server, but you can transfer your characters (even dead ones) to normal servers.
    Hirelings are allowed. The goal is to be as close to live servers as possible.
    Available for VIP only.
    At this point, it is planned as a one-time event.

Rewards

Players can get exclusive cosmetic rewards for participating / meeting certain goals (favor, reaper XP, level). The rewards are account-wide, available on all servers.

    1750 favor: Eyes of Darkness cosmetic
    5000 favor: Bloody Footprint cosmetic
    10 reaper points: Tattered Cloak cosmetic
    20 reaper points: Blood Reaper pet
  
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Reply #51 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:59am
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Haha what shitty prizes. No incentive to sub VIP to do this at all as someone who couldn't give a shit about cosmetics or screen-clutter.
  
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Reply #52 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 8:43am
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Slick Stick wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 1:23am:
Counterpoint, Florida.



Florida is both the North and the South simultaneously. It is Long Island stapled to Alabama.
  
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Reply #53 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:16am
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I'm for it!  Riff Raff 2020
  
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Reply #54 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:38am
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The hedging language around it being temporary is about saving face.  If it's a miserable failure, they'll write it off as an experiment.  If it's a success, then it'll be a regularly occurring thing.

I think it's a solid bizdev move, but it isn't for me.  Three months spent on cosmetics, a leaderboard and racing for bragging rights "world first" permadeath achievements, or three months doing racial PLs, new EPLs, RXP, etc.  If I wanted hardcore gameplay, I'd play PoE.  It's a much better game for that style of play, and the meta frequently changes.
  
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Reply #55 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:01am
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raybob wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 11:10pm:
Having lived in both north and south, I find the north to be the more objectionable.


Curious what you think is north, lol.

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RewardsPlayers can get exclusive cosmetic rewards for participating / meeting certain goals (favor, reaper XP, level). The rewards are account-wide, available on all servers.    1750 favor: Eyes of Darkness cosmetic    5000 favor: Bloody Footprint cosmetic    10 reaper points: Tattered Cloak cosmetic    20 reaper points: Blood Reaper pet


So many people give zero shits about cosmetics. They need to add a mechanic to make this not feel like a waste of time. And no, transferring out your dead character doesn't count. Maybe if they gave you the option of deleting your dead character and transferring any earned reaper xp from the dead character to your real character.
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Reply #56 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:32am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:01am:
So many people give zero shits about cosmetics.

Because most DDO cosmetics are terrible.  There are notable exceptions like the dragon armor/helm or Strahd's cloak, but it's not enough variety.  Look at PoE for cosmetics done right.  I don't understand the disconnect in DDO, considering dungeon art assets are pretty good.  And the cosmetic biz model is lucrative as demonstrated by Fortnite and PoE.  That's the real opportunity SSG is missing here.  Make my character look cool, and I'll shell out a few bucks for it. 
  
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Reply #57 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:34am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:01am:
So many people give zero shits about cosmetics. They need to add a mechanic to make this not feel like a waste of time.

Oh, I don't know. The Eyes of Darkness could be a cool look. Shouldn't be too hard to get 1750 favor.

I'm not a permadeath guy but I might try for them.
  

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Reply #58 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:46am
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crunch wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 6:47am:
Hardcore League is a limited time event, open for 90 days, starting August 16, 2019. You can play on a special perma-death server with some additional rules.

    Basic rule: If you're dead, you're dead. No self-raises, no Raise Dead, no res shrines.
    All characters start at level 1, even iconics.
    You cannot transfer to this server, but you can transfer your characters (even dead ones) to normal servers.
    Hirelings are allowed. The goal is to be as close to live servers as possible.
    Available for VIP only.
    At this point, it is planned as a one-time event.

Rewards

Players can get exclusive cosmetic rewards for participating / meeting certain goals (favor, reaper XP, level). The rewards are account-wide, available on all servers.

    1750 favor: Eyes of Darkness cosmetic
    5000 favor: Bloody Footprint cosmetic
    10 reaper points: Tattered Cloak cosmetic
    20 reaper points: Blood Reaper pet


It's a hardcore push to increase VIP subscriptions.  It's a horrible idea.
  

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Reply #59 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:56am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:01am:
Maybe if they gave you the option of deleting your dead character and transferring any earned reaper xp from the dead character to your real character

That is too much. Easy farm to 10. Rinse, repeat and stack 10 per?
  

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Reply #60 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:01am
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Technomage wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:34am:
Oh, I don't know. The Eyes of Darkness could be a cool look. Shouldn't be too hard to get 1750 favor.

I'm not a permadeath guy but I might try for them.


Agreed.  1750 favor is pretty easy these days.  Even avoiding content that might have risky features that cause easy death.   Current maximum possible favor is 6359.  With another content pack coming at the same time as this release.   So probably around 6400 or so.   That means that even backing out raids, challenges, and such, you can probably get to around 2,000 by norm running the rest of content and 4,000 just by running the content non-raid content on Hard.  That should have a low risk of death.  then pick and choose what you want to Elite to get you to 5,000.   The favor rewards are achievable.  Even for players without a lot of skill./experience.   The power creep in the enhancement trees and the Ran gen loot pass makes most all pre U29 content pretty straightforward.  Of course you have to do it all on one life. 

The reaper stuff can span multiple lives.   But also comes with more risk.   Especially on toons that won't have a lot of HP. 
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Reply #61 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:04am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:32am:
Because most DDO cosmetics are terrible.  There are notable exceptions like the dragon armor/helm or Strahd's cloak, but it's not enough variety.  Look at PoE for cosmetics done right.  I don't understand the disconnect in DDO, considering dungeon art assets are pretty good.  And the cosmetic biz model is lucrative as demonstrated by Fortnite and PoE.  That's the real opportunity SSG is missing here.  Make my character look cool, and I'll shell out a few bucks for it. 


I agree with this as well.  There are some really strong cosmetics, but not enough of them.  Investing more in art assets would have a large return and also not add to power creep.
  
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Reply #62 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:12am
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Technomage wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:34am:
Oh, I don't know. The Eyes of Darkness could be a cool look. Shouldn't be too hard to get 1750 favor.

It's more difficult than you think on a no life toon with no twink gear and no ship buffs.  1-20 is about 120 quests when I'm doing racials and nets ~2000 favor.  When was the last time you went 1-20 doing elite+ and didn't die at all from lag? 

As for the eyes, to each their own.  It's just a different color reaper eyes.  Hell, 3 out of the 4 cosmetics/pets are just color variants of existing rewards.  Bloody Footprints are the only one that appears to be new.  SSG couldn't set the bar any lower for rolling out something new.
  
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Reply #63 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:16am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:38am:
I think it's a solid bizdev move, but it isn't for me. 


This. I am not sure in the wider MMORPG space if there is something like it, so it may attract some attention. I think it will also sluice some of the mega super power gamers who go triple completionist/iconic/whatever all of the time -- so the top heavy power game will at least momentarily halt.

Maybe SSG will throw money at some camgirl who happens to play videogames to livestream the permadeath stuff or something, but doing it temporarily either helps them commoditize the hype (if good) or say "LOL just for kicks yall" (if not good).

I think the ONLY good that will come is if you are nostalgic, and have a static group, that people will run classic launch content tactically versus R3 zerging since they have twinked out gear.

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Reply #64 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:23am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:12am:
Bloody Footprints

I have a feeling it is Expeditious Retreat animation, but red....


NOTpopejubal wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 8:43am:
It is Long Island

You can easily throw in Staten Island and most parts upstate.
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Reply #65 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:33am
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Welp, the title piqued my interest, but SSG shit all over it once I started reading details. At least they're consistent.
  
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Reply #66 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:35am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:23am:
I have a feeling it is Expeditious Retreat animation, but red.... 

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Reply #67 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 2:13pm
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I have a feeling it is Expeditious Retreat animation, but red....


DEFINITELY TRUE

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Recycling 10 year old assets. I mean... ...shit....
  

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Honestly I wouldn't mind some recycled assets from LOTRO or AC.
  

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Reply #69 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:25am
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
Recycling 10 year old assets. I mean... ...shit....


But, red though...
  

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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
Honestly I wouldn't mind some recycled assets from LOTRO or AC.

Are additional AC assets even an option?  Last time I looked, AC is owned by AT&T -> Time Warner -> Warner Bros.    I mean, whatever was incorporated by DDO from AC before the Turbine split isn't an issue, but anything since then would be a license nightmare I'd think. 
  
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Reply #71 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:46am
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If they leave champions as they are on live, there's gonna be a lot of salty players, and then in a very short time, people will start dialing down the difficulty... how many times are you gonna get to level 10 or so, only to be one-shotted or dotted to death, and get back to 10 and have it happen all over again.  HP are gonna be shit, PRR and MRR are gonna be shit.... items are gonna be shit....
  
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Reply #72 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:12pm
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Gunga wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Recycling 10 year old assets. I mean... ...shit....


But, red though...


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Reply #73 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 1:36pm
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I'd still be making a habit if collecting twink gear on shared bank for my next go if I were to die.
  

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Reply #74 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 2:53pm
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Meh, full store is on Lama, tomes, etc...  No reason to do this unless you really want the cosmetics.  100% P2W.
  
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