Apparently devs need some guidance on what to consider for nerfs. So while they sit in office and aimlessly discuss what to nerf next, I figured i would just show them where to look.


Sorc is sustaining around 40-50k red named dps currently on lamania. So what clearly needs to be done is to buff sorcs even more.



Here is their aoe helpless damage, in case you didnt know what the best aoe builds were. DBF and Meteor Swarm doing slightly less than the burst and breath pictured, but still do stupid 50k crits for DBF and near 100k for Meteor.




Now onto Inquisitive. Watch that hp just plummet around 37 second mark in video. I have no words. This is at least safe for the time being because they have not finished selling the tree.   

Ok they are retarded but they know those builds are op.

Thats their plan to milk the whales.

They want to sell inq and tieflings.

would love to know what that Shiradi test build is.. rogue with T5 inquisitor and T4 Mechanic probably.. wana know

Its rogue/arti probably 13/6/1 hes clearly using arti T4 in the vid

Yea, I don’t understand the balance issue across the board.

Make a game, build to the best possible spec reguardless of circumstance, get nerfed.

If your not constantly chasing the nerf bat it leaves room for flavor builds, and the meta players arnt going to run with you anyway. It’s all dumb.

Digimonk wrote on Aug 10^th, 2019 at 7:35pm:

It's slim pickings. We get what we can in DDO now. Pandering to nerf bait rage is one of the few enjoyable activities left.

Also, those builds are stupid and should be nerfed. Like, actually needs nerfing. They're only going to become more popular in r10 when the new damage debuff adjustment goes live.

Digimonk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

But they are. It takes some skill to replicate that level of dps, provided you have a character that is capable. Vinny's test are done as is, on his in-game set up. Not a kobold specialized racer. Nuke's test are also done on his in-game build.

That dps is repeatable, sustainable, and functional in game. You're not seeing some made up scenarios that can't occur, or don;t occur in game.

You have symb on your server. Go group with him and gauge his dps, then come back and say he only does that on kobolds.

Digimonk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2019 at 11:44am:

Tell that to Tilomere.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/507309-Good-time-to-nerf-divine-might-...

Justanotherlurker wrote on Aug 11^th, 2019 at 11:59am:


The faster time should be in Fury. Adrenaline is 5 seconds versus 30 for Horizon Shot. And Unbridled is once every 3 seconds. The dps is really high even without Horizon Shot. It would be around 15 seconds or less in LD. That rivals or beats most melee builds.

Digimonk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2019 at 11:44am:

Scaling in r10 lowers the damage for every one. There weren't any features used in vince's video.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 11^th, 2019 at 1:01pm:

Yes, I'm aware.  I'm not claiming Vinc used features on the bard.  The inquisitive video in this thread though has some odd animation sequences and the fire rate in the combat logs seems interesting.  Could be it's 100% legit, but I think it's suspicious.

What I was trying to point out is that I see a lot of builds that perform well in R10s and haven't seen any particular build performing heads and shoulders above the others.  If anything, wolves in their current form seem to be the ones to beat. 

Inquisitives are solid, no doubt, but I've yet to see anyone running one that just smashes all the other good players on DPS builds in-game and I've run with a lot of them.

As to evo sorcs, those are virtually non-existent in the R8+ crowd on Ghallanda.  The sorcs you see in high reapers are cc+instakill builds.  If sorcs were able to roll through repeatedly nuking mobs in R10 for 17k per cast, you wouldn't be able to join reaper groups without tripping over them, yet they're virtually extinct as a build.

Digimonk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2019 at 10:05pm:


No its legit inquisitive has some animation problems with Rune arms in general its not because of using features. The Shiradi and reaper changes are enough to put them in top tier - Shiradi was ahead of LD on bosses in my testing.


And yes you will see Sorcs in R10 content after the patch the buffs are huge when considering improved reaper scaling and Draconic changes.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 2:09am:

Ahh, I see now.  We've come to the point of build thought-crime for Live.  That's lovely.

Personally, I think evo nukers and ranged builds are due a few days in the sun given how much SSG shit on them with the Reaper penalties for the past 2.5 years.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

At least it will be fun to run an evo sorc again, even if only for a year. 

Maybe at some point during that year, SSG will find their ass with at least one hand and figure out how to fix 2HF, then we can all just switch to that meta for a while.  Hell, Paladins may get a day in the sun at some point in the next decade.  Who knows?