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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #25 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 1:04pm: ranged builds are due a few days in the sun given how much SSG shit on them with the Reaper penalties for the past 2.5 years. Ranged builds have sucked for the last 2.5 years? What game are you playing? They've been in the sun pretty much non-stop since 2015, unless you like using a longbow... Sure it moves a bit from repeater to G-Xbow to Shuri to Inquis duals and the class splits have changed, but ranged xbow ans star builds have been in the Meta for years.


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HelloKitty Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 57 Joined: Feb 27^th, 2019	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #26 - Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	The shiradi tests are legit.
	« Last Edit: Aug 12^th, 2019 at 6:45pm by HelloKitty »

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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #27 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 12:54am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 12^th, 2019 at 5:16pm: Ranged builds have sucked for the last 2.5 years?� �What game are you playing?� They've been in the sun pretty much non-stop since 2015, unless you like using a longbow... Sure it moves a bit from repeater to G-Xbow to Shuri to Inquis duals and the class splits have changed, but ranged xbow ans star builds have been in the Meta for years. The one where good players roll with melee DPS builds that smoke ranged toons in R10. You need to stop running LE/R1 all the time and step up to R8-10 if you think ranged DPS is the meta.


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9440 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #28 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 8:12am	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 12:54am: The one where good players roll with melee DPS builds that smoke ranged toons in R10. You need to stop running LE/R1 all the time and step up to R8-10 if you think ranged DPS is the meta. You�re an idiot. Inqs are op, dipshit.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Justanotherlurker Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 384 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2014	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #29 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 9:22am	Print Post
	Inqs weren't OP before the patch - they might very well be after the patch


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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #30 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:32am	Print Post
	Gunga wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 8:12am: You�re an idiot. Inqs are op, dipshit. You should pray for more OP'd classes and builds.� You need the help.
	« Last Edit: Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:32am by Digimonk »

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #31 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:42am	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 12:54am: The one where good players roll with melee DPS builds that smoke ranged toons in R10. You need to stop running LE/R1 all the time and step up to R8-10 if you think ranged DPS is the meta. Yeah. My guild only runs LE/R1. Sick burn.


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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #32 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 1:33pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:42am: Sick burn.� If you think ranged DPS has been the meta in DDO for the past 2.5, then yes, it is indeed.


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Vaultaccount Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 624 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #33 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 11:39am	Print Post
	They have posted sub-10 kolbold times many times, and nobody called for nerf. Symb has 8.3 wolf kolbold time from last time lamma was open, and nobody said anything. The biggest difference is that they're changing the reaper debuff to be the same of melee, so that's a thing


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9440 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #34 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 8:20pm	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 11:32am: You should pray for more OP'd classes and builds.� You need the help. Who is your main on ghallanda you pussy.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #35 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	Gunga wrote on Aug 14^th, 2019 at 8:20pm: Who is your main on ghallanda you pussy. U mad bro?


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Fuck You Steelstar Reply #36 - Oct 12^th, 2019 at 8:30am	Print Post
	https://youtu.be/tV0oaJ6ap5Q 92k dps. 14k in R10 under 0.154 debuff.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9440 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #37 - Oct 12^th, 2019 at 10:42am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 12^th, 2019 at 8:30am: https://youtu.be/tV0oaJ6ap5Q 92k dps. 14k in R10 under 0.154 debuff. Meh. I�ve seen better.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #38 - Oct 12^th, 2019 at 4:46pm	Print Post
	Not only does inquisitive have a monkcher like burst but its sustained is top tier melee level dps.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1213 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #39 - Oct 12^th, 2019 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 12^th, 2019 at 4:46pm: Not only does inquisitive have a monkcher like burst but its sustained is top tier melee level dps. Honest question, do you know how long do OP phases last become they get streamlined and a new meta emerges? Is it going to be the alchemist turn next? (poison spell power..lol)


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5977 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #40 - Oct 12^th, 2019 at 5:55pm	Print Post
	Artorias wrote on Oct 12^th, 2019 at 5:26pm: Honest question, do you know how long do OP phases last become they get streamlined and a new meta emerges? Is it going to be the alchemist turn next? (poison spell power..lol) I think you're right. Something lasts until they knock it over. E.x., Tempst knocked off by wolf, wolf knocked off by inquis.

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #41 - Oct 12^th, 2019 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Oct 12^th, 2019 at 5:55pm: I think you're right. Something lasts until they knock it over. E.x., Tempst knocked off by wolf, wolf knocked off by inquis. but wolf was only marginally ahead of tempest (which was never top tier, assassin did/does more damage) when certain bugs were accounted for. 14k DPS in R10 is bonkers.
	« Last Edit: Oct 12^th, 2019 at 7:26pm by Bigjunk »

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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1213 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #42 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 3:36am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2019 at 7:25pm: but wolf was only marginally ahead of tempest (which was never top tier, assassin did/does more damage) when certain bugs were accounted for. 14k DPS in R10 is bonkers. Doesn't make it any less true. Remember when pally holy sword made people cry because of 10/20 crit range? (or was it 8/20?) or the warlock on release?Or barbarians being unkillable in anything that was less than a 25 on EE because of blood healing?Or the bard rework that turned it into a better fighter with lame party buffs that made assassins on each server salty? Yup, I remember too How long did each of those phases last before something else was reworked and brought up to par? To be clear there is a difference in streamlining classes VS bringing them to same level of OP shit poorly designed if not to please a dev sexual perversions (because steelstar jerks off with xbows, right?) as it only feed the power creep and once you go down that way there is NO turning back Next up is Severlin choke collar for animal pets
	« Last Edit: Oct 13^th, 2019 at 3:38am by Artorias »

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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #43 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 4:25am	Print Post
	Haha at Inquisitive. Just got it now it's in store (not forking out real money on expansions these days) and yeah, it's way out there. Fun while it lasts I guess.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #44 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 9:49am	Print Post
	Artorias wrote on Oct 13^th, 2019 at 3:36am: Doesn't make it any less true. Remember when pally holy sword made people cry because of 10/20 crit range? (or was it 8/20?) or the warlock on release?Or barbarians being unkillable in anything that was less than a 25 on EE because of blood healing?Or the bard rework that turned it into a better fighter with lame party buffs that made assassins on each server salty? Yup, I remember too How long did each of those phases last before something else was reworked and brought up to par? To be clear there is a difference in streamlining classes VS bringing them to same level of OP shit poorly designed if not to please a dev sexual perversions (because steelstar jerks off with xbows, right?) as it only feed the power creep and once you go down that way there is NO turning back Next up is Severlin choke collar for animal pets Bringing other styles "up" to inquisfags is madness. Balancing upwards to this degree would require us to have Reaper 20 for there to be any semblance of challenge. This has to be fixed with nerfs.


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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1213 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: Fuck You Steelstar Reply #45 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 10:58am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Oct 13^th, 2019 at 9:49am: Bringing other styles "up" to inquisfags is madness.� Balancing upwards to this degree would require us to have Reaper 20 for there to be any semblance of challenge. This has to be fixed with nerfs. Agreed, that's what I meant


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #46 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	There is no other way to reign in inquisitive dps. I suspect that it can leverage around 20k+ sustained in shiradi ( without temporary or short term clickies like SoS/Mists/ and even without NHB ). Just using rotations and swaps alone.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #47 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 13^th, 2019 at 12:27pm: There is no other way to reign in inquisitive dps. I suspect that it can leverage around 20k+ sustained in shiradi ( without temporary or short term clickies like SoS/Mists/ and even without NHB ). Just using rotations and swaps alone. What's amazing is how many people still find a way to suck on these builds. I'm know over 90% of the player-base are booger-eating morons but still, if you're playing an inq to 1/3 it's potential you'll out-perform 95% of the builds out there. It also amazes me that we don't have more sorcs, and how people can find a way to suck on them as well (see my YouTube channel for tons of mediocre sorc suckage).


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #48 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 13^th, 2019 at 12:27pm: There is no other way to reign in inquisitive dps. I suspect that it can leverage around 20k+ sustained in shiradi ( without temporary or short term clickies like SoS/Mists/ and even without NHB ). Just using rotations and swaps alone. It�s not that challenging. They could do it in such a way that it hits all ranged builds. Which are too op anyways. Cap double shot. Reduce attack speed by 50% when attacking while moving. Shit like that.


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Cripey Shroud Slacker Offline Fuck you, thats my name. Posts: 1007 Joined: Jul 21^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: What Really Needs A Nerf Reply #49 - Oct 13^th, 2019 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Oct 13^th, 2019 at 1:36pm: What's amazing is how many people still find a way to suck on these builds.� I'm know over 90% of the player-base are booger-eating morons but still, if you're playing an inq to 1/3 it's potential you'll out-perform 95% of the builds out there. It also amazes me that we don't have more sorcs, and how people can find a way to suck on them as well (see my YouTube channel for tons of mediocre sorc suckage). your youtube channel Dont pull a strim and quit your job to stream a dying game!

	Grands Superhero IRL Or as they say in Ireland - Derp derp derp derp. Yellow moons. Lassie. Hordo wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:07am: EDIT: BTW I love your post.� It reads as if English is your 3rd language behind gibberish and dipshit. majmalphunktion wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 6:11pm: what the fuck guys... Jeesus fucking shit. This shit gets me called to the principals office. Assholes.
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