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Reply #25 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 1:46am
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Carpone wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 6:42pm:
There's a WF 20 Sorc.  Rumor is he gold rolled his way to 20.

General chat constant full of "F" respects.


They're tracking favor and reaper points, right?  If he's not at the top of those lists, he obviously found a way to level without running quests.
  

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Reply #26 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 2:42am
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Technomage wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 12:14am:
So either there's still a working dupe out there or that guy actually spent $500 to level to 20.



There is something at work.  Wink


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Reply #27 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 4:39am
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Somebody pointed out on the mobo that the over level lockout applies to wilderness areas. So there's a chance you won't be able to reach BoB. And definitely not at epic. They really don't play their own game.

I'm getting into it, though. There's so much I've forgotten. It's coming back as the timid playthrough creeps through the harbor. Still, it has less to do with permadeath than it does with having zero resources. For a minute I thought maybe I would migrate to a server my main isn't on when this is over to continue the feeling. Then the thought of grinding out a single TF stick hits me and fuck that shit.
  
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Reply #28 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 7:27am
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Skoodge wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 1:46am:
They're tracking favor and reaper points, right?  If he's not at the top of those lists, he obviously found a way to level without running quests.


Yup.   But the options would be:

Grinding a few high yield quests to get to cap fast (which wouldn’t produce much favor or reaper xp)
Dice rolling to 20
Exploit (probably around dice or sagas)

There is a reward for reaching 20.  But only one.   With the other goals being reaper xp and favor, speeding to cap gets you very little, besides a pl.   what are you going to do at 20 when the next highest is at 13 with no gear and no ed’s On a first lifer?  Solo epic reapers?   Good luck with that. So tr is about your only viable option.  but how much stronger is a 34 point build with 1 sorc pl than a 32 point build?   Not much when lag and incompetent party members are your biggest risk factors.
  
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Reply #29 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 7:34am
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gibbon wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 4:39am:
Somebody pointed out on the mobo that the over level lockout applies to wilderness areas. So there's a chance you won't be able to reach BoB. And definitely not at epic. They really don't play their own game.

I'm getting into it, though. There's so much I've forgotten. It's coming back as the timid playthrough creeps through the harbor. Still, it has less to do with permadeath than it does with having zero resources. For a minute I thought maybe I would migrate to a server my main isn't on when this is over to continue the feeling. Then the thought of grinding out a single TF stick hits me and fuck that shit.


This is different in part because of the community feeling.   Going to a new server wouldn’t be as fun.   Because korthos and the harbor and marketplace are ghost towns.   The AH is empty.  It’s not as fun starting with nothing if that means being the only person with nothing.   

The limited time line also gives it energy.  As does the permadeath.  I’ve not done an intentional 5k favor run in a long time.  And certainly not at level.  That means running quests that are less familiar.   Which ups the risk factor. 

  
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Reply #30 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:08am
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Asheras wrote on Aug 17th, 2019 at 12:20am:
First day was fun.  Everyone crammed into 4-5 levels for the most part.   I think highest character I saw was level 8.  Lots of deaths and laughs.   It’s fun to care what’s in every chest.    We’ll see how it holds up over time.    Right now deaths are funny and you lose a few hours effort.   In a week or two that’s gonna be really frustrating if it happens.


Saw a lvl 12 die this morning on the global announcements.  Thats rough.
  
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Reply #31 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 10:52am
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The gold roller will be forgotten in a week.

You can't buy your way to 20 reaper points.  I think people underestimate how grindy 400k RXP is on a first life toon with suboptimal gear when your grouping options are extremely limited. Assuming you grind out most heroic R1 quests for favor and RXP, you're looking at 100-120k RXP without XP pots.

I think the meta will settle on something like 3 people playing 2 toons each.  One toon sits at the entrance while the other is actively played, in case a toon dies.  The two other high level people aren't going to want to create another set of toons to immediately level their buddy back up to where they are.
  
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Reply #32 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 8:56pm
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The first to 20 paid over a grand to gold roll his way there. We were in party with his guild while he went 1 to 20. Apparently the character later died after he TR'd it. Second hand information.
  
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Reply #33 - Aug 18th, 2019 at 9:51pm
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Asheras wrote on Aug 18th, 2019 at 7:34am:
This is different in part because of the community feeling.   Going to a new server wouldn’t be as fun.   Because korthos and the harbor and marketplace are ghost towns.   The AH is empty.  It’s not as fun starting with nothing if that means being the only person with nothing.   

The limited time line also gives it energy.  As does the permadeath.  I’ve not done an intentional 5k favor run in a long time.  And certainly not at level.  That means running quests that are less familiar.   Which ups the risk factor. 


You know, I agree with all of this.

I was pretty negative about this in the run up to it but I have to admit at this point I'm having more fun in game than I have in years.
  
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Reply #34 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:06am
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As I thought at first try and the beginning its super fun: no ships, no gear, a lot of people, a live ah. Even platinum is limited lol. Permadeath on top of it definetly makes game spicy, plus all the death announcements are fun. Still, as I was intended to, gonna give it a shot until first lag death. Dont really know which way is the best to play it. Probably need to tr couple of times before making all reaper life. Gearless toon cant make all solo reaper for sure, and yet partying is very limited, way too much folks playing it wrong and dies at lvl 3-7
  
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Reply #35 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:05am
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It’s amazing how many people can’t slow down and plan ahead.  Or use any tactics besides Leroy Jenkins.
  
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Reply #36 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:07am
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Could they have spent less money and made a shittier splash screen for this?
  

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Reply #37 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 5:27pm
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Count Dante wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:07am:
Could they have spent less money and made a shittier splash screen for this?


Shut up, you whiny cunt.
  

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Reply #38 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:29pm
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Question: What happens if a character in the death zone tries using a bracelet of friendship? instant death? Can you be pulled out of death this way (I doubt it)?

I have confirmed you can't /stuck out of the death zone...

pretty sure the pvp zones are still active... anyone want to friendship bracelet someone to the pvp zone and kill em?

...just some trolly thoughts...
  
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Reply #39 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:46pm
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Just took the L at level 6.    Sigh.  Fucking 2 champs double teamed me.
  
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Reply #40 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:52pm
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Asheras wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Just took the L at level 6.    Sigh.  Fucking 2 champs double teamed me.


Some guys pay extra for that.
  

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Reply #41 - Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:53pm
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Asheras wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Just took the L at level 6.    Sigh.  Fucking 2 champs double teamed me.


Ya champs are the worst
  

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Reply #42 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 5:13am
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Box Cutter Surgeon wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:29pm:
Question: What happens if a character in the death zone tries using a bracelet of friendship?

Didn't want to spend the points to find out but similarly I wondered if you can use one when you have Grotto anti-death buff and whether it would persist if you exited with a bracelet.
  
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Reply #43 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:29am
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Asheras wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
Just took the L at level 6.    Sigh.  Fucking 2 champs double teamed me.


I was tanking 2 reapers and an demon soul at once Cheesy
  
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Reply #44 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 8:14am
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Gunga wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 8:52pm:
Some guys pay extra for that.


I didn’t even get a reach around...
  
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Reply #45 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 8:22am
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acidpickachu wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:29am:
I was tanking 2 reapers and an demon soul at once Cheesy


Nice.   I wasn’t on a tankable build.  Inquisitive.  Does crazy dps but is a bit squishy.   Especially with only 50% fort.   

The difference between little to no ship buffs, no racial or heroic completionist and no tomes is a difference of 8-10 or so on all stats. Plus the missing epic pls and iconic pls and their defensive benefits. 

The margin for error and outliers is very small.
  
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Reply #46 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 12:06pm
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I find it funny that the lack of decent gear, PL, etc. due to the long break I had has put me in a position now where Hardcore isn't that different from my regular play but most others are having an interesting bump back to earth.

I've capped someone playing PD before but it was before Reaper and many other changes. Didn't go above 20 though, that'll be interesting to watch as the server ages.
  
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