acidpickachu wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 6:53pm:


Hirelings are between 5 and 30 DDO points per hour.  Offsetting the 25 points from favor that you get pretty regularly and the 500 from VIP, it's not funding much.   You guys act like hirelings are ottos boxes.   Yeesh.  THe kvetching over small shit.

Asheras wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 10:25pm:


I mean. If you are really dumb and only buy 1 at once. The point of gold seal hires is to have a fleet of 5 up to run circles around you to prevent yourself from getting nailed by a reaper.

IF p2w is no real advantage, I guess everyone would be happy if they removed the store

acidpickachu wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 1:42am:


Good luck with that.   All hirelings do against reaper is act as speed bumps.   Again, spoken like someone who isn't actually playing on HC.

Slick Stick wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 7:50pm:


Every meta build relies on Aasimar, Tiefling, Dragonborn, Harper, Vistani, Inquisitive, Falcon, FvS, Arti, Druid, Warlock, etc.

If your definition of P2Win now includes pay classes, races, and trees, then that's your call.  The fun thing about P2Win is you can draw the line where ever you want.   And move the goal post around conveniently as needed in internet arguments. 

You aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours.  I think the store whinging about HC  is mostly ignorant theory-crying (theory crafting but where you whine about stuff you have no real experience with) by people who haven't actually played on the hard core server. 

I'm done debating it, but feel free to keep posting how your spreadsheet says that the store is super unfair on HC.

Meursault wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 2:13pm:


Yea, no, as someone else said, not going to create another alt that you then have to grind up.  I already have those on live, don't need to start another on HC.  HC toons are throw-aways.  You can replicate everything you did on your P2W maxed out HC toon in a fraction of the time on the live server due to access to twink gear.  HC toons are either ladder toons which won't have value after the ladder ends, or they're cosmetic toons which are just used to unlock the cosmetics (my case).  No one is making a HC character because they think it's the best place to start a new alt that they want to transfer back to live. 

Asheras wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 6:18pm:

That's funny because that's exactly what I was thinking about you based on your posts.

Anyone who's spent more than 30 minutes on the HC server knows good and well that the majority of the death announcements are for sub level 10 toons.  Guess where your supposedly minor p2w boosts provide the most benefit? 

The benefits of the p2w stuff have a much more significant impact in the lower heroic levels where the gear is shit and where toons don't have access to T5 enhancements and enough points to fill them.

Once you start moving past the level 10-12 mark, the p2w stuff hits an increasing point of diminishing returns because it gets eclipsed by named gear, reaper points, T5 enhancements, better spells, etc., but as the death announcements on the HC server show, a lot of people struggle in getting past level 10ish, so those benefits could be significant.

And I say this even as someone who's used a small amount of p2w on the HC server.  I bought a heavy fort aug from the NPC with astral shards and a cake when I went unconscious during an earthgrab while soloing at level 8 or so.

The cake is an excellent case in point.   Without that cake, there was a >95% chance the toon would have died.  With the p2w cake, the toon lived.  So yes, even just a simple p2w siberys cake can make the difference between living or dying.

Digimonk wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 2:01pm:



This, by calling things p2w, you are diminishing their *ahem* "accomplishments". I love watching what follows though. Guys talking about tears while putting on the water works themselves. Just so funny.


Digimonk wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 2:01pm:



Dude, respect is a strong word.

Skoodge wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 3:11pm:



Despise is a pretty strong word too, because you'd actually have to care.

Maybe I would just roll my eyes less? Maybe take some of their comments at face value? I don't know, I've already put too much thought into it...

Asheras wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 4:24pm:

The advantage p2w stuff provides is pretty significant in the early levels.  It tapers off in upper heroics and epics. 

It's still p2w though.  Call it what it is, accept it, and own it.  =P

Stop trying to move the goalposts from it's not p2w to well, it's p2w, but p2w won't fix stupid.  That's so obvious it doesn't even warrant being brought up.

Digimonk wrote on Sep 4^th, 2019 at 6:56pm:



He is probably headed back to spend moar to try to prove you wrong. Well done sir.

Oh shiiit this bug is back?
Now THAT is one bug i would come back to DDO for.

I would run around in harbor on my monk with Shiradi and use the blur buff i think it was?
Back then the best proc was the high damage dealing poison. Even capped players couldn't survive that