Carpone wrote on Sep 6^th, 2019 at 1:46pm:


The real problem here was the enhancement pass. Back in the day dark monks were far more common; why? Because they weren't shoehorned into using the worst weapons in the fucking game by shortsighted design, aka; kamas and shortswords.

If ninja spy had ever gotten updated to include centering other weapons that Monks strangely have proficiencies with (Handaxes, Daggers, etc.). Hell, do you know how Vistani got dagger centering? Me bitching about ninja spy for years and bringing it up in the PC.

That aside, I've love to go back to the old days when your monk path wasn't heavily tied to your PrE and you certainly didn't find yourself fucked over weapon wise (IE: Having to spend a majority of AP in Shintao to make handwraps not suck) or being stuck with lame ass quarterstaffs as a Henshin or Shortswords as a Ninja Spy.

I mean seriously Ninja Spy literally exists for Shadow Veil, Advanced Ninja Training for Shuriken, and Sting of the Ninja. It might be the worst tree over all in my opinion, and there are some real stinkers still floating about.