It used to be about 5 levels of artificer for the racial HP; There's now the option for zombie splitting, i.e a tank DC caster.

I'm thinking something along the lines of a 17wiz/3pal or 17wiz/3ftr that has both viable wail of the banshee and tanking. Probably not a good solo build, because it has some of the lowest DPS possible even when splashing nuking gear, maybe even as THEIFling.

Requires significant PM investment, as well as Defender and eldritch. Could you fit all the enhancements, feats and gear into one character thats lategame mid-reaper viable? How would you go about it?

No, not there, bad build.
The splash is where its @. He just isn't viable, would rather splash 5 arti on the normal variant.

Linker wrote on Oct 28^th, 2019 at 10:58am:


wow harsh criticism with no evidence 

how is a pure wizard that can hit 130+ DC's and with a few gear swaps and a destiny swap can tank any raid in the game not viable or a "bad build"? seems like that is exactly what you are looking for. Taking away from the pure wiz part will tank your DC's and self heals, usable? maybe, 130 DC? not a chance with current gear.

looks to me like that build is good enough to hold up to reaper 10 and hard+ raids without too much trouble. doubt you would want it to tank your r6 project nemesis but hard looks like was done on a 2man with that build.

think about it, epic defensive fighting is worth 25% hp on that build, more than the pally3/fighter3 defence stance gives, sure you get a little more prr/mrr and some proficiency but gives up greater death aura and a heap of DC to get it. you also get the most tanky sharn set with medium armor out of everything. giving DC's as well as 20 prr with the dreadkeeper set. pally gives up a feat, fighter gets an extra  1 that you could spend on improved shield mastery. You would end up with 12 more intimidate but 122 already hits every raid boss except reaper qaspiel and reaper hound, drink some coffee and buff a bit to get those. its hard to go con int and cha all high so I would avoid pally for sure, and fighter does not seem like its worth the lost DC's and greater death aura for an undead tank

fact of the matter is, for high reaper questing, your DC caster needs 120 DC's to reliably hit in new content, with some sharn quests needing 135+. if you cant hit those, just full stop and make a DC caster and drop the tank or make a tank and drop the DC caster.

Linker wrote on Nov 28^th, 2019 at 5:22am:


solo tanked hard PN. all 4 bosses. -200 prr from gish's debuff. our reaper PN runs generally have a couple tanks to split off bosses as nobody around on our server at least can really tank all the bosses at once on reaper. That build can tank any individual boss in reaper PN, up to r3-r4 with halfway decent healing and plenty of reaper points.

step in to sharn welcome r10 and try to finger a goblin with 115 necro DC. Good luck my friend, send pics of the laughing goblin.

only wizard tank build I ever saw tanking mid+ reaper raids was some silly build by unsinful from omni tanking r6 PN. it didnt have DC's but looks like it had a rather amazing amount of PRR

anything can be a tank, even in reaper if you can get to 130ish intimidate with 5000 hp and 300+ PRR and 200+MRR and a tad of competent healing. It just so happens that even a pure wizard can get to those numbers with the correct gear on and the correct enhancements selected.

the tricky part is hitting the DC requirements at the same time as hitting the minimum tanking requirements. if you can come up with a gearset and build that can even get a non pure wizard to even 85 necro DC and successfully intimidate the dragon and take an electric dragon breath with 10 stacks of electric vulnerability from r1 killing time, you let me know.

if you want a real undead tank for high reaper raids, 14 fighter, 3 wiz 3 barb. figure it out

One of the biggest problems on the Vault the last few years is that maybe four people know what the actual good builds are. Everyone else are people who USED to be top tier players and now don't know shit.

Bigger problem being, the four people who know whats actually going on that post here refuse to ever actually answer an questions without asshole retard sarcasm lol.

Vtec wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 6:19am:


Hmmmmmm