Not being a TWFer much in the past, but is 3x full attacks > 1 full attack + x glancing blows?  I don't remember glancing blows being terribly awesome at anything but getting aggro

Edrein wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 6:24pm:



This is cool and all but I think he was looking for some numbers. A little comparison if you will.

D+

Edrein wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:



Much appreciated.

Preview 2

Disclaimer
Everything seen on the preview server, Lamannia, is not final and is subject to change or removal before live release.

Hello, all! Update 45 is expected to contain a large amount of changes to systems balance in DDO. This primarily takes the form of changes to Ranged Combat, Two Handed Fighting Melee Combat, and a Knight of the Chalice revamp. There are, however, a multitude of other balance changes in this preview build which weren't large enough for their own thread but were too large in total to place in the main thread. Below are a variety of different changes in this preview. Some of these things are somewhat interconnected to other balance changes and as such, it will make the feedback process the most productive that it can be to review all of the balance changes before putting forth thoughts and suggestions on individual pieces.

Individual Changes

    Aasimar's Healing Hands is now capped at 20 character levels.
    Scion of the Ethereal Plane now adds 1.5 Sneak Attack Damage per rank of Hide you have, instead of 1 for every 3 points of your total Hide score.
    Dragon Breath in Draconic Incarnation now has a 60 second cooldown
    Draconic Fury in Draconic Incarnation now has a 90 second cooldown
    Sunder is now: Tactical Melee Attack: Using this attack, you may reduce the target's Armor Class by 10% and Fortification by 25% for 6 seconds. Some creatures may be immune to the sunder effect. A successful Fortitude save negates this effect. (DC 10 + STR Mod + Sunder Bonuses). Cooldown: 10 seconds.
    Improved Sunder is now: Tactical Melee Attack: Using this attack, you may reduce the target's Armor Class by 10% and Fortification by 25% for 12 seconds. Some creatures may be immune to the sunder effect. (DC 10 + STR Mod + Sunder Bonuses). Regardless of saving throw result, enemies will suffer the Trauma effect, which is a -3 penalty to Fortitude saving throws. Stacks 5 times. Lasts 24 seconds. Cooldown: 10 seconds. This feat replaces your Sunder feat.
    Falconry: Diving Attack's cooldown has been reduced to 12 seconds from 20 seconds.
    Falconry: Coordinated Strike's cooldown has been reduced to 25 seconds from 60 seconds.
    All instances of Divine Might are now: "Battle Trance: You gain an Insight bonus to Damage and the DC of tactical feats equal to 1/2 of your Charisma modifier for 30/60/120 seconds."
    Divine Might, Divine Will, Harper's Know the Angles, and Falconry's Deadly Instinct's Damage components now provide an actual Insight bonus to Damage (as their tooltips claim they do), meaning they provide damage to both Melee and Ranged attacks and do not stack with other Insight bonuses to Damage.
    War Soul's Divine Presence is now redundant (doing exactly what the new Divine Might does), so it has been removed.
    Ear Smash/Knockout's Sleep component no longer works on enemies who should be immune to Sleep.
    Ear Smash/Knockout's Sleep effect now ends on damage, as Sleep effects are supposed to.
    Ear Smash/Knockout's Stun effect no longer works on enemies who should be immune to Stun.


Just finished reading the ranged combat changes and I have to say they monumentally fucked up even more, so much that I don't even know if they actually try being so goddamn stupid.

So...THF Barbs with Greatswords/Greataxes, or Monks and Rogues with Q-Staves then?

Ugh. Boring.

Technomage wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 1:25pm:


Or awesome. Something.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 2:32pm:


They upped overall light dmg with changing it from 100% scaling to 200%, but its still to low. Losing the glancing blows is a loss obviously, and it doesnt come close to the 14d6-17d6 you get in the inquisitive tree which it should have imo.

combine that with the nerf of stalwart pact back to a shitty defensive buff and its like wtf are they thinking?

Bastard Swords, Dwarven Axes, and Bears all just got the boot into the dumpster. Classic.

Ear Smash was dumb af before letting it work with Strikethrough. The only surprise is how long it took SSG to make the change.

ILoveExploits wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 7:28pm:


Ditto.

Carpone wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Inquisitive is so far dead and buried that it will never come back. Has any class been nerfed this hard before? Monk was still playable after their nerfs, but this is absolute hot garbage.

Artorias wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 5:29am:

It swings firmly back to casters and melees. There are very few ranged builds that are good now. A smattering of the same shuri throwers we had forever, VKF dagger throwers, and maybe a 18 rogue mech using Volley and NHB. That's it for ranged builds. And they're not even that great. The IPS and reload speed nerfs hit everything else and not just Inquisitive. Multitude of Missiles lost 20 dshot and 60 RP. Only gain was AF reverting to old stacking and 2 more Rp per stack.

No one could test archers because alacrity for them is screwed. The new ui in the character sheet tabs displays only 10% ranged/bow speed. No matter what feat, twist, destiney, or bow. And the dps looked shitty from what I saw.

Chop chop fuckers
Off at the knees
If you want your legs back
Aka legolas
Shot on the run
Only rangers
Rest of you getta stand still

Like it only ever was