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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Finding Dorris...what a POS Mar 13^th, 2020 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	Ran this ridiculous slog of quest for the 2nd time today with several weeks between. Now I remember why I havn't ran more of this chain. Fucking slow-head idiot design of a quest. Shit, I even <3 the Pit and Coal Chamber but this finding Dorris BS is just effing rubbish.

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3478 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #1 - Mar 14^th, 2020 at 3:03am	Print Post
	Maybe you should run with someone who actually knows the quest to show you how to run efficiently. Lots of shortcuts and tricks to run it in less than 20 minutes.


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Teth Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 250 Joined: Jan 31^st, 2014	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #2 - Mar 14^th, 2020 at 9:54am	Print Post
	Mokune wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 8:59pm: Ran this ridiculous slog of quest for the 2nd time today with several weeks between. Now I remember why I havn't ran more of this chain.� Fucking slow-head idiot design of a quest. Shit, I even <3 the Pit and Coal Chamber but this finding Dorris BS is just effing rubbish. Yea with proper shortcuts and everyone in group knowing it, this can be run sub 10 mins on r10


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #3 - Mar 14^th, 2020 at 10:27am	Print Post
	It can be run efficiently if you memorize it. That doesn't mean that it isn't shittily designed. Anyone who goes in there blind is going to wander around wondering wtf they're even supposed to do. Easily missable stuff should be optional. If objectives are going to be mandatory and need to be completed in a certain order, that requirement should make sense instead of being arbitrary. If people get to the endboss without finding the mcguffin or talking to the random NPC, let them fight the boss and then go back and search FFS. If Finding Dorris were a D&D session, the DM would get punched in the face.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5956 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #4 - Mar 14^th, 2020 at 10:30am	Print Post
	That's saying something, because that's the best quest in that chain

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #5 - Mar 14^th, 2020 at 11:13am	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 10:30am: That's saying something, because that's the best quest in that chain all of sharn is hot trash. the devs should just stop anytime they consider making their own expansion again.

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LagMonsterrrrrr Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 263 Joined: May 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #6 - Mar 14^th, 2020 at 4:34pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 11:13am: all of sharn is hot trash. the devs should just stop anytime they consider making their own expansion again. This.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3478 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #7 - Mar 15^th, 2020 at 9:46am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 11:13am: all of sharn is hot trash. the devs should just stop anytime they consider making their own expansion again. Already working on the next expansion for release by the end of this year. LOL!


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #8 - Mar 15^th, 2020 at 10:31am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 9:46am: Already working on the next expansion for release by the end of this year. LOL! I hope it is a setting that has already been fleshed out by creative writers. Maybe less copy pasting so that Sharn doesn't feel like the market swallowed the harbor, but got shrunk by 85% after. At least the music is good in sharn. Maybe their new expansion has teleports to the quest instead of forcing you to run through their shitty little wildernesses, which they spent far too much time on, and decided that running through the cogs would be mandatory, if only so they felt like they didn't waste their time. This way they can waste yours instead. Maybe they allow for the quests to be red doored so I can run the few decent ones in the pack without being forced to do all of them. Or maybe join in a group in the middle of the chain? Those fucking idiots didn't even make the fucking thing group friendly, for fucks sake....

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #9 - Mar 15^th, 2020 at 10:46am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 10:31am: I hope it is a setting that has already been fleshed out by creative writers. It is Feywild. The least fleshed out thing they have done to date. Stormreach, Eveningstar, Underdark, Ravenloft, and Sharn were all well established. Feywild is a completely blank slate.

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Edrein Abbot Raider Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 994 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #10 - Mar 15^th, 2020 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 10:46am: It is Feywild. The least fleshed out thing they have done to date. Stormreach, Eveningstar, Underdark, Ravenloft, and Sharn were all well established. Feywild is a completely blank slate. Neverwinter did a Feywild expansion and there's various materials for the Feywild. But as far as DDO is concerned I could totally see it being 100% homebrew.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9971 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #11 - Mar 15^th, 2020 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	Ravenloft is a direct copy, room to room, encounter to encounter, of the 5th Ed Ravenloft book. You can actually use the book to zerg the quests if you don't know them. ( except Amber, they tinkered with that one ) Oh and the Ravenloft book maps are really really much easier to understand, especially when you're dealing with the Castle.

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LagMonsterrrrrr Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 263 Joined: May 28^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #12 - Mar 15^th, 2020 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 5:57pm: Ravenloft is a direct copy, room to room, encounter to encounter, of the 5th Ed Ravenloft book. You can actually use the book to zerg the quests if you don't know them. ( except Amber, they tinkered with that one ) Oh and the Ravenloft book maps are really really much easier to understand, especially when you're dealing with the Castle. They turdbined amber.


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Slick Stick Puppy Farmer Offline Titties! Posts: 1444 Location: Central Coast, CA Joined: Mar 9^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #13 - Mar 15^th, 2020 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 5:57pm: Oh and the Ravenloft book maps are really really much easier to understand, especially when you're dealing with the Castle. They suck at multi level maps. It's quite embarrassing.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #14 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 1:54pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 5:57pm: Ravenloft is a direct copy, room to room, encounter to encounter, of the 5th Ed Ravenloft book. I did not know that. They did an even more incredible job on it then. I feel like I got baited with sharn after ravenloft. And feywild is going to be even more of ssg original content... Hope corona cancels it all!

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1197 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #15 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 1:54pm: I did not know that. They did an even more incredible job on it then. I feel like I got baited with sharn after ravenloft. And feywild is going to be even more of ssg original content... Hope corona cancels it all! A sane person would think that if copy-paste legacy modules are so successful it would be a good idea to stick to it and keep up in order to get both profits and happy customers but superstars at SSG know better


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #16 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	Artorias wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 12:21pm: A sane person would think that if copy-paste legacy modules are so successful it would be a good idea to stick to it and keep up in order to get both profits and happy customers but rockstars at SSG know better Fixed.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9971 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #17 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 1:54pm: I did not know that Scan from the Ravenlof Book, Amber Castle :

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9971 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Finding Dorris...what a POS Reply #18 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	Ravenloft Castle : ( first two floors ) There's some cosmetic changes to fint them in the DDO engine ( thick walls and such ), but otherwise if you look up one of the room you get the same encounter as in the book.

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