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Halfmaniac Stormreaver Piker Offline I'll lead you to my basement Posts: 720 Joined: Nov 12^th, 2013 Gender:	SSG changing it's business model May 28^th, 2020 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Quote: We have seen our communities come together in recent months as we unlocked quest, raid, and adventure area content to all players, and we are excited to make an announcement today that you'll want to read. We would like to thank you for supporting us! To start, players can continue to enjoy all of our quests, raids, and expansion content for free through August 31st, 2020. We would also like to provide a way for you to move forward with your gaming when our event eventually comes to an end, so in the coming days we will be providing a Coupon Code that will let you acquire all currently-available adventure packs permanently on your account(s)! However, you will need to act quickly, as this Coupon Code is available to redeem through August 31st, 2020. Additionally, we will be conducting a sale on two of our expansions in the DDO Store! When the sale is active, players will be able to pick up the quests included in Menace of the Underdark and The Shadowfell Conspiracy for 99 DDO Points. Stay tuned for exact timing on the sale. We are also announcing an update to our VIP program! VIPs will be getting a permanent +1% XP boost for every member in their party other than themselves and hirelings, up to a maximum of 5%. This boost stacks with other bonuses, and works the same as our long-running weekend Buddy Boost bonuses. VIPs do not need to do anything to get this update, as your VIP account(s) will automatically receive this benefit starting in a game update in the near future. Please continue to stay safe, and we are happy to have you here. Sincerely, The teams at Standing Stone Games https://ddo.com/en/news/free-questing-coupon-and-vip-update-%E2%80%93-thank-you-... Is this your doing ddoplayer98???

	karavek wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 8:10pm: Look dude just because you hate a cunt doesn't mean you stop fucking the bitch you just turn her over and hate fuck her ass bloody then your take her to Tijuana and sell her ass to some spic pimp.
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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9325 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #1 - May 28^th, 2020 at 6:03pm	Print Post
	Halfmaniac wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 5:56pm: https://ddo.com/en/news/free-questing-coupon-and-vip-update-%E2%80%93-thank-you-... Is this your doing ddoplayer98???� I don't understand the motivation for this. Someone give me speculation plox. If boxes are... "available", wouldn't content be the thing they keep selling? Something smells funny to me.

	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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Skoodge LORD OF BOOBS Offline Whatever Posts: 3702 Location: Why? You want to visit me? Joined: Jul 19^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #2 - May 28^th, 2020 at 6:10pm	Print Post
	Translation: because of the extreme duping of ottos boxes, we're going to give all the old, honest players all the shit they've already paid us for ages ago. For free! It's not a bad move. Half-assed and pointless to the whales, but good for newer players and gives the appearance of effort to the forum paladins.

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Justanotherlurker Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 384 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2014	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #3 - May 28^th, 2020 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	I hope it is a change in business model but it looks more like a 1 time giveaway.


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9325 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #4 - May 28^th, 2020 at 6:34pm	Print Post
	Skoodge wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 6:10pm: Translation: because of the extreme duping of ottos boxes, we're going to give all the old, honest players all the shit they've already paid us for ages ago.� For free! It's not a bad move.� Half-assed and pointless to the whales, but good for newer players and gives the appearance of effort to the forum paladins. Hmm.. But, you can't dupe content. (yet). You think this is just to pacify the people on the outside of the dupes? I dunno about that. I still don't see the financial move for SSG on this yet. I mean, I guess it could be "don't quit--here's some shiny turds!" to keep people on. But, that feels short-sighted. On the other hand, who is buying MOTU who doesn't have it yet? I dunno. But some of the newer stuff (RL and Sharn) still seem sellable. Maybe packs just don't make up much of their revenue stream anyway. They're too busy selling +5s to lazy TRs like Gunga.
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	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #5 - May 28^th, 2020 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 6:34pm: Maybe packs just don't make up much of their revenue stream anyway. A little bit this. A committed premium player is going to buy 3 packs a year...for 1500-2000 points? Head-Meat wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 6:34pm: I mean, I guess it could be "don't quit--here's some shiny turds!" to keep people on. But I think mostly this. There's been a big uptick in new players since the lockdowns started. And there's going to be a mass exodus the day that those players log on and see that all of a sudden they can't access half(?) the content in the game without plunking down some cash.

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ddoplayer98 Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 151 Joined: May 3^rd, 2020	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #6 - May 28^th, 2020 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Lmfao, no comment.


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9441 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #7 - May 28^th, 2020 at 7:16pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 6:34pm: They're too busy selling +5s to lazy TRs like Gunga.� Clearly I�ve played too much. When you have two Uber completionists with wings, you might be over slogging sub optimal classes to 20. .
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	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #8 - May 28^th, 2020 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	This is Fantastic! Well done SSG!!! This will really welcome all the great new players that have joined the game lately! Kudos!


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9325 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #9 - May 28^th, 2020 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 6:53pm: There's been a big uptick in new players since the lockdowns started. And there's going to be a mass exodus the day that those players log on and see that all of a sudden they can't access half(?) the content in the game without plunking down some cash. Ahhhh. THIS makes sense. Good call. Thanks.

	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #10 - May 28^th, 2020 at 7:52pm	Print Post
	I think they have seen a bunch of players back during lock down and seen the revenue they gain from store consumables like heal pots, mana pots, xp pots, Bells, Shards, Rez cakes, hearts etc when players can Run all content and stay engaged. Then there are the cosmetics and bags and tomes and such. The key isn�t selling content. Content is a one time purchase. That has diminishing returns. The win for them is selling convenience and consumables and quality of life. (Sure power/p2win too but hopefully less of that. I can dream. )


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Halfmaniac Stormreaver Piker Offline I'll lead you to my basement Posts: 720 Joined: Nov 12^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #11 - May 28^th, 2020 at 8:51pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 7:52pm: I think they have seen a bunch of players back during lock down and seen the revenue they gain from store consumables like heal pots, mana pots, xp pots, Bells, Shards, Rez cakes, hearts etc when players can Run all content and stay engaged.� �Then there are the cosmetics and bags and tomes and such. The key isn�t selling content.� Content is a one time purchase.� �That has diminishing returns.� �The win for them is selling convenience and consumables and quality of life.� �(Sure power/p2win too but hopefully less of that.� �I can dream. ) and multiply all that by... how many total lives are there now? Considering it takes some players months or years to get all those lives, if hooked to the game, that'll be a long time extra revenue for SSG from them.

	karavek wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 8:10pm: Look dude just because you hate a cunt doesn't mean you stop fucking the bitch you just turn her over and hate fuck her ass bloody then your take her to Tijuana and sell her ass to some spic pimp.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5977 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #12 - May 28^th, 2020 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	I hope they make this permanent. A giant roadblock to new players is the content purchases.

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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #13 - May 28^th, 2020 at 10:14pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 10:12pm: I hope they make this permanent. A giant roadblock to new players is the content purchases. I couldn't agree more. It's wonderful to be able to bring new players along with you into all the content and give them an Idea of just how big and varied the quests are. That really hooks new players.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #14 - May 28^th, 2020 at 10:26pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 10:12pm: I hope they make this permanent. A giant roadblock to new players is the content purchases. The biggest paywall is Epic Destinies. Pay up or be worthless 20-30.

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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Short sighted jerks Reply #15 - May 28^th, 2020 at 10:50pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/515288-So-VIPs-are-apparently-getting-... This fellow Astorpotamus, is a short-sighted buffoon the kind of sad person that rates what they get on what other people don't get. This type of fool will only be happy if the velvet rope mentality takes over. New players= More fun


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9441 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #16 - May 28^th, 2020 at 10:57pm	Print Post
	Halfmaniac wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 8:51pm: how many total lives are there now? 150

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #17 - May 28^th, 2020 at 10:57pm	Print Post
	Sorry if this was a bit harsh, it just made me cringe and I posted before taking 10 deep breaths.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3482 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #18 - May 29^th, 2020 at 12:18am	Print Post
	Gunga wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 10:57pm: 150 I saw Nerdgoddes had 407 PLs and 201 reaper points when he got deletYEETED. Talk about the largest OOF SIZE in existence.


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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1004 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #19 - May 29^th, 2020 at 12:46am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on May 29^th, 2020 at 12:18am: I saw Nerdgoddes had 407 PLs and 201 reaper points when he got deletYEETED. Talk about the largest OOF SIZE in existence.� His drunk ass probably deleted his toon after getting wiped in a quest. Seriously the dude's been on a downward spiral for a bit.


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9441 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #20 - May 29^th, 2020 at 12:55am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on May 29^th, 2020 at 12:18am: I saw Nerdgoddes had 407 PLs and 201 reaper points when he got deletYEETED. Talk about the largest OOF SIZE in existence.� I think 150 is/was 3 of each? 407 is dumb.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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Synchrono Waterworks Kobold Offline I am not a noun, I am a VERB. Posts: 154 Location: In The Heart of Darkness Joined: May 30^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #21 - May 29^th, 2020 at 1:12am	Print Post
	I am glad to see them extend the free content bit. I recently got around to making a spare account just to have as a Necro 1/2 openner for faster racial farming and really had forgotten just how much of the game is behind that paywall. Character creation is so laid over with tags to the store its not even funny. I had twinges and in truth if I saw it as a new player I really doubt I would bother with this game. That blatant in your face pattern just isn't right for me. At any rate it's a surprising yet quite welcome development.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #22 - May 29^th, 2020 at 2:14am	Print Post
	So, uh, basically all content will be purchasable by a single coupon? What does all this wierd SSG monologue mean?

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Dr_tank2vich Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Darma! Posts: 1427 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #23 - May 29^th, 2020 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	m4lacka wrote on May 29^th, 2020 at 2:14am: What does all this wierd SSG monologue mean? Trying to emulate Elon Musk's tweets?

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Sasha Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 818 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: SSG changing it's business model Reply #24 - May 29^th, 2020 at 12:42pm	Print Post
	A step in the right direction, but I hope they find a way to make this permanent. The current business model is one of the big things severely holding this game back, DDO will never be good with this shit 2006 freemium strategy.


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