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Hardcore_Girl Dragon Raider Offline Hardcore or Go home! Posts: 267 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2013	I suspect something was not quite right Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 3:48am	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/515409-Firegoddess-says-he-won-t-be-ba... Something doesn't sound right of this morbid episode. Anyone care to share?


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Oracler Titan Demolisher Offline Sploits! omnomnom.. Posts: 388 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #1 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 4:24am	Print Post
	SSG had a beer friday, apparently for the first time.
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	Here's a drama, There's a drama, and another little drama Fuzzy drama, Funny drama, drama drama duck drama drama, cheesecake drama, tablet, brick, potato, drama drama drama mushroom drama, drama drama duck
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #2 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 2:15am	Print Post
	Someone at SSG deleted this guy's character. Whether it was an accident or malice we will never know, but the character got erased. DDO's legendarily-shitty customer service didn't fix it. The equally legendarily shitty(and fat) jerry fucked the situation until it got even worse. And the end result is a very popular/well-liked player quite the game in disgust. The community support was overwhelming. The response from SSG was... "go fuck yourself". TL:DR version: SSG shit the bed again and slept in it several nights.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #3 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 2:21am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 2:15am: Someone at SSG deleted this guy's character. Whether it was an accident or malice we will never know, but the character got erased. There's a plethora of reasons or ways this might of occurred. My personal bet is Fire was drunk and deleted his toon himself. Alternative is that Fire finally got caught for being naughty years later.


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Shinyshoes Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 754 Joined: Mar 8^th, 2019	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #4 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 3:09am	Print Post
	Reading that, like all mobo threads has lowered my intelligence, permanently I fear.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #5 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 5:15am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 2:15am: Someone at SSG deleted this guy's character. There's a bug that allows players to accidentally log in other player's accounts and characters. You figure out the rest...


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Notanarc Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 300 Joined: May 17^th, 2020	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #6 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 5:44am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 5:15am: There's a bug that allows players to accidentally log in other player's accounts and characters. You figure out the rest... "accidentally"


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #7 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 6:42am	Print Post
	Notanarc wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 5:44am: "accidentally"� Yeah, just like your dad's condom broke "accidentally"...


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #8 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 7:01am	Print Post
	Nobody knows what really happened. What Fire describes makes no sense. It sounds like he got back all PLs and Reaper Points and tomes etc. the loss was the TR cache. Which they have been clear in the past is stored in such a way that it is not searchable or recoverable. It has long been a risky and concerning methodology. I hope they move forward with any number of suggestions that eliminate the TR Cache as a concept so that these kinds of losses stop happening (whether it is something like this or something like the old TR cache lost on TR issue). We don�t need to lose players over the TR cache being a technical problem in resolving customer support problems.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #9 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 11:55am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 7:01am: It sounds like he got back all PLs and Reaper Points and tomes etc.� �the loss was the TR cache.� �Which they have been clear in the past is stored in such a way that it is not searchable or recoverable.� The cache might not be searchable or recoverable, but it takes all of 30 seconds for a game master to spawn an item and mail it to you. Yeah they can't do that for every item or for every player who suffers a cache-lose; but when you have something high-profile(EG someone with a high social standing), it makes good business-sense to have one of your grunts go fix it manually. I've been working in customer service for years, and I can tell you: it is not the big customers that get special treatment, its the high-profile ones.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #10 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 5:15am: There's a bug that allows players to accidentally log in other player's accounts and characters. You figure out the rest... The deletion happened while the player was actively online playing on a different character. So that would mean someone randomly got logged in to this player's account while that person was themselves logged in. Not impossible. But then that would also mean the vandal decided to delete the best character on the account, fuck around for 2 more hours, then re-create the character as a lvl 1. And in the 2 hours they spent dicking around, they didn't delete or steal anything else. Still not impossible. But even if that's what happened, it is STILL on SSG to fix it, and with something that nasty it needed to be fixed FAST. Like how fast they nerfed horses.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #11 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 11:55am: The cache might not be searchable or recoverable, but it takes all of 30 seconds for a game master to spawn an item and mail it to you. Yeah they can't do that for every item or for every player who suffers a cache-lose; but when you have something high-profile(EG someone with a high social standing), it makes good business-sense to have one of your grunts go fix it manually. I've been working in customer service for years, and I can tell you: it is not the big customers that get special treatment, its the high-profile ones. I'm not arguing about how they should or shouldn't address Fire's specific situation. I'm saying: You can keep having problems with the TR Cache and then having upset customers and having to deal with customer service issues reactively and eat up a lot of time and effort and have hurt feelings in your player base. OR You can proactively eliminate the TR Cache as a concept and replace it with a personal bank that uses the shared bank interface and gives everyone enough slots to store what was in the TR cache and not have to deal with these issues anymore. To me, proactively fixing what has been a recurring thorn in the side of SSG and the players would be the best choice.


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Oracler Titan Demolisher Offline Sploits! omnomnom.. Posts: 388 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #12 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 12:56pm	Print Post
	Character deletion is fully reversible, well except Guild info, mail, auctioned items and bids, and REINCARNATION CACHE. But still all the past lives, reaper points etc. Every item in game can be farmed again not that big loss imo with the cache. https://help.standingstonegames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000046928-DDO-Character -Undelete (even if you create new character with same name already) What actually happened is someone SSG fucktard was trying his ever first SQL queries with live database, and that is not easily reversible (backup + IID's fixing + remote keys etc.)
	« Last Edit: Jun 4^th, 2020 at 1:00pm by Oracler »
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #13 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 1:08pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 12:48pm: You can keep having problems with the TR Cache and then having upset customers and having to deal with customer service issues reactively and eat up a lot of time and effort and have hurt feelings in your player base. A.K.A. : The option SSG has clearly chosen. Asheras wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 12:48pm: OR You can proactively eliminate the TR Cache as a concept and replace it with a personal bank Clearly the best choice, but not possible because something something mumble failure. I wouldn't even really take that much, about double current bank space. So many options. So much fucktardery. Oracler wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 12:56pm: Every item in game can be farmed again not that big loss imo with the cache. You go ahead and start farming that EROSS again. We'll wait. Did you get another one yet?

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9362 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #14 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 12:48pm: OR Meat-Head Approved ^TM

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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baba Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 7 Joined: Aug 26^th, 2019	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #15 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 11:23pm	Print Post
	>"firegoddess" >"he" his character obviously got deleted for being a tranny


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #16 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 11:59pm	Print Post
	baba wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 11:23pm: >"firegoddess" >"he" his character obviously got deleted for being a tranny Nah DDos allowed trannys since like U39. In all seriousness, though, wtf is up with heterosexual males playing girl avatars in MMOs? I NEVER fucking got why people do that.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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baba Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 7 Joined: Aug 26^th, 2019	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #17 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:08am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 11:59pm: Nah DDos allowed trannys since like U39. In all seriousness, though, wtf is up with heterosexual males playing girl avatars in MMOs? I NEVER fucking got why people do that. dont get it either i heard from one guy that since he has to see the ass of his character all the time he rather it be female. guys like this are probably in the closet and repressing their homosexuality.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #18 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:28am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 11:59pm: In all seriousness, though, wtf is up with heterosexual males playing girl avatars in MMOs? I NEVER fucking got why people do that. MMORPG - Many Men Online Role-Playing Girls.


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9362 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #19 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:31am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:28am: MMORPG - Many Men Online Role-Playing Girls. Toppie.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #20 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:51am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:28am: MMORPG - Many Men Online Role-Playing Girls. Gunga wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:31am: Toppie. ...yeah. That's definitely a win. Hey, did anyone else know we had this? ^

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Sasha Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 818 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #21 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 5:39am	Print Post
	I feel bad for what happened to this guy, but I feel worse about the fact he farmed 200 reaper points and 407 past lives, I could literally cry about that. Just why


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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #22 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 6:24am	Print Post
	Sasha wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 5:39am: I feel bad for what happened to this guy, but I feel worse about the fact he farmed 200 reaper points and 407 past lives, I could literally cry about that. Just why Iirc he used the ottos trick for a good chunk of his initial reaper points. It's actually what I assumed his toon got deleted for. Sure the rest he's farmed over time, but I definitely remember him being well ahead of the rest of Sarlona out of no where during the initial Reaper launch.


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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #23 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 6:24am: Iirc he used the ottos trick for a good chunk of his initial reaper points. It's actually what I assumed his toon got deleted for. Sure the rest he's farmed over time, but I definitely remember him being well ahead of the rest of Sarlona out of no where during the initial Reaper launch. Shit, you could use an Otto's to get Reaper points? Damn, I missed out on a ton of good stuff.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: I suspect something was not quite right Reply #24 - Jun 5^th, 2020 at 11:47am	Print Post
	baba wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 12:08am: dont get it either i heard from one guy that since he has to see the ass of his character all the time he rather it be female. guys like this are probably in the closet and repressing their homosexuality. I like female characters more. it's the pretty hair. and if i wanted to live out a fantasy of being a big strong sexy male with a large sword, I would just go outside

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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