Strake wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 10:32am:


Damn.  I've been active 6 years now and never knew about that.  How wonderfully weird and random what Bishop seems to know or not know is.

Thanks for the summery.  Can't say I'm bored enough to care about this little melodrama.  I can safely ignore the girls pulling each other's pigtails without the fear of missing out on something good.

Skoodge wrote on Jun 28^th, 2020 at 6:14pm:


Strake is definitely downlplaying it.

I did an Andy Kaufman bit regarding antisemetic vs Star Wars racism with a tint of anger at an old roommate that was jewish and very stubborn.  I was angry, read over that thread recently and I think my mind was a little off -- going through a divorce, etc threw me emotionally.  There was a better way to tell the joke.  I read it and found it dumb now -- saw the attempt, wondered how in my many "good idea" that I worded it that way.  Anyway, that's what kicked it off.

Stainer did research my divorce.  He also created an account using my wife's image here and began propagating a lie that I beat my wife, "from her own virtual lips," so to speak, by using this account with her personal details.   She's in another country (Australia) and I'm in the USA serving at Little Rock AFB.  That's how he knew here to look for the divorce filing in general.   

Moreso, I almost lost my Top Secret Security Clearance because of Stainer.  It affected my flying career.  Hence, I'm now a 10 year former Captain Civilian (Honorably Discharged).  I can pin this on Stainer any day of the week and the Vault if you want to get into blame, but the emotional damage at that time was significant.  I did love the woman I married and do care for her, but would never call her a friend or go back to her for all the money in the world, all the promises of adventure's worthy of Gygax, all the anything you could ever want.  She wasn't faithful, wasn't good for me. It's fine.  I would never hurt her and it was incredibly hurtful to continue to spread a lie that my wife was domestically beaten by me.

Also, at the time, these postings were very easy to find on Google.  You could type "Kistilan, wife" and DDOVault claims of me beating my wife showed up.

So, that's the backstory.  Bishop obviously lives in the past.

I don't think this is worth anyone's time, but it's a little disingenuous to sweep under the carpet the severity of what Stainer lead and Strake endorsed.

By the way, Strake have you gotten your subpoena yet? nothing here in the valley, I wonder if our process servers got lost. Or I suppose there is a chance Kistilan never filed anything, that would be funny, wouldn't it.

Skoodge wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 4:14pm:


Bishop wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 4:02pm:



Not picking sides or having a horse in the race Mr Skoodge? No worries, some folk are quite happy to scratch the surface and a few weeks ago I was warned that for some convoluted reason you had decided that I was a sock, or someone who had hurt your feelings one way or another. You really are a peculiar bunch here, I was advised to ignore it as best as possible because some of you lads have been jumping at that particular shadow for a few years now, and I would be joining a long list of newcomers accused of it. With that said, you are welcome for my service as well.

As ever I await the subpoena that will never come because Kistilan can't afford to have everything put into the public court record after he has spent years attempting to build his career and social life around the fake service history as a special operator. Not to mention the stigma of the domestic assalts.

Skoodge wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 4:56pm:




Unlike Kistilan I would never be foolish enough to post my real name on a place like this, or anywhere online. Nor would I be craven enough to use my name online repeatedly in an effort to create a fantasy past in the digital trace. That withstanding, I appreciate your thanks, any vet cringingly appreciates it, but no one joins for it.

Going forward I'll continue as I began,  by treating your occasional attempts to draw me into some type of conflict for what they are and have avoided fueling your boogie-man fetish when possible while still answering some of the many usually quite incisive ideas and opinions you make elsewhere.

Now back to waiting for Kistilan's subpoena that will never come.


*Edit: I just realized that you and I suppose others, might have misconstrued that I meant Kistilan was stealing Valour with his Vault posts, you have crossed wires. No one would care about anything posted here on this pointless and nigh anonymous site (my apologies Strake), I'm am referring to the extensive efforts he has made on numerous online site and outlets to create, promote and benefit from a fictitious service record and history. I can't say for sure that he continues it in person, but the rule of thumb is that Valour stealers tend to either be even more hyperbolic in person or never try to float it for fear of being called on it by a sharp-eyed vet in person.

That's alright I neither needed or asked for your thanks, it only came up because you attempted to paint me as a civilian for effect in one throw away sentence of yours, Vets don't do it for thanks, and real ones refrain from big-noting their service for kudos.

Actually you will find I was saying "Hey, look at this jerk!".

I also added a postscript to last post for clarification in case folks had the wrong end of the stick.

Still no sign of the process server, I worry that he may never come by.

Bishop wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 5:05pm:


I hope you're happy.  I've now put at least 40 minutes of effort into the thing I honestly didn't want to give a damn about (plus I should have been in bed 20 minutes ago).

Here's what I can tell you about Kistilan:

He obviously has a questionable sense of humor.
He apparently either has a bit of an ego or is lacking in common sense to give away his personal information on the vault.
He may or may not be a shitty husband.
He obviously doesn't know when to quit while he's ahead.
He may or may not be a failure as a human being.
He's a fucking vet who honorably served our country for ten fucking years!

When he says "I reached this rank and belonged to this unit" and I can find a picture of him put up by that fucking unit confirming his rank then yeah, I believe him.

When I can find mention and quotes by him from at least 3 separate military pages dating as far back to 2007, yeah, I believe him.

Quote:


So, sorry.  From a third person point of view, this guy is not only a vet but a vet with a hell of a record and you're just some asshole bashing someone who gave a quarter of his life serving our country.

If you don't believe me, check out the verified 621st Contingency Response Wing's facebook page.

Skoodge wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 4:14pm:


I appreciate the reply, but uh, anonymity isn't a requirement to be a decent human being.

I get it, there are jerks and this place is the Wild West, but there's a human decency level I inherently believe in.   I don't use my actual name in many other forums, but the cat's out of the bag here and was in DDO/LOTRO/SWG/AC/UO, etc.  And by and large, there has only been one place where my name was used to research my personal life and take a very painful moment and capitalize on it with very surreal lies and I don't know what to call it, impersonation of my wife's virtual avatar, I guess? 

But anyway, I get what you're saying.  I just expect humanity to actually exist a little bit too.  There's shenanigans and there's just, as close as you can to attack a person's emotional and professional life.  He probably didn't even understand he was fucking with my security clearance by what he was posting.  But whatever....  I'm out now.


Er, oh just read this.  Aww.  I'll embolden my own impression on me here.


Skoodge wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 6:21pm:

Strake wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 5:53pm:


If you want to be an Admin for once, you can shut down the retard that started this. 

I did not even for a second come back to the Vault to:

1. Talk about "the incident"
2. Start shit with second-hand stainer.
3. Rekindle my desire to actually follow a libel defamation lawsuit
4. Ask you to post our private email exchanges regarding point 3.

And you want to blame me for Bishop's hard-on regarding the past?  And the new shit with stealing valor?

Sorry, not my fault.  Not even a little bit.

Kistilan wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 11:34pm:
 
The board you are looking for is called "Sunshine and Fairy Farts" - you might even get elected to be a mod there.

Kistilan wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 11:34pm:

Ask not what you came to the Vault for, ask why the Vault came on you.

Kistilan wrote on Jun 29^th, 2020 at 11:34pm:

Unlike rape, trolling really does require victim participation. You're so busy trying to defend yourself against baseless bullshit that you failed to realize they've turned you into something far worse: a 40 year old man threatening to sue internet people. Stainer didn't put those words in your posts. Bishop didn't put those words in your posts. You put those words in your posts. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read those words in your posts. Seriously.... I double-checked to make sure it was your IP and not a sock with a fake 'i' or something. That's how fucking solid gold they were.

And I thank you. It brings a tear to my eye to realize that I, Strake, founded this place where, on multiple occasions, a grown-ass man prostrated himself so completely for all the world to see. These times shall be inscribed on the steps of the state capital, alongside an engraving depicting your massive gaping asshole eagerly awaiting its next thorough reaming.

Kistilan wrote on Jun 30^th, 2020 at 1:50pm:

Okay, to be more precise: successful trolling requires victim participation.

C'mon, man, most of us learned that on the playground a long fucking time ago.

Kistilan wrote on Jun 30^th, 2020 at 2:31pm:

But you did leave, which was good.

However, you came back, which was bad.

Honestly, you should probably leave again. Just make sure you delete your own account.

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1288717125

You don't need the aggravation you're causing for yourself here.

Just go and live your life elsewhere.

Technomage wrote on Jun 30^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:



I don't know when to give up though, do I?

I think deleting my account would be a disservice to anyone with a moral compass here.