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Reply #25 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 3:02pm
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Reply #26 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 3:12pm
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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 2:46pm:
Right, you like the style of the grind, you just don't want to participate. In other words, you don't like the grind. Thank you, come again.


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Now, you listen here, Apu, I like to work, but I'd also like the satisfaction of retiring some day.

I certainly appreciate that this form of grind allows all most content to stay relevant, but I also want the satisfaction of reaching that goal...

For the record, among most of the other Heroic, Iconic and Epic PLs, I did also do about 18 of the Racials lives legit.
Maybe you can say I'm simply not committed enough to stick around and do it all legit... and that's fair. 

But god dammit, I sure did have fun.


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Reply #27 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 5:20pm
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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 11:02am:
I remember when we were bitching about the game getting too grindy... before reincarnation was introduced.


This game wasn't ever close to the grind of other MMOs; Everquest took thousands of hours to get one toon to endgame, DDO takes 20-30? WOW end game raids take 12 hours, High Reaper DDO raids take max 60-90 mins? I did always feel bad for that one sap that would do 80 or 100 raids and not get the loot they wanted; never happened to me. Runes made it so much easier.

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I've been watching people fork over hundreds of dollars over the past few months to specifically avoid the exact grind we are discussing. They are paying to avoid playing the game they purport to play for fun.


Yeah, I probably have a year of college tuition into this game over the years. Probably not any worse than getting married and blowing extra cash on strippers and sports bets. Guys are idiots for the most part.

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To each their own, but what I see is hamsters on wheels paying money to make it spin faster.


Again, you've just changed wheels. You're still spending money on something to make it spin faster.
  

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Reply #28 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 5:58pm
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Gunga wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 5:20pm:
This game wasn't ever close to the grind of other MMOs; Everquest took thousands of hours to get one toon to endgame, DDO takes 20-30? WOW end game raids take 12 hours, High Reaper DDO raids take max 60-90 mins? I did always feel bad for that one sap that would do 80 or 100 raids and not get the loot they wanted; never happened to me. Runes made it so much easier.

Yup, it used to be an improvement over other MMOs. No longer... now it's just a really dated copy of other MMOs.

Gunga wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 5:20pm:
Yeah, I probably have a year of college tuition into this game over the years. Probably not any worse than getting married and blowing extra cash on strippers and sports bets. Guys are idiots for the most part.

We all need hobbies.

Gunga wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 5:20pm:
Again, you've just changed wheels. You're still spending money on something to make it spin faster.

If your point is that life is a hamster wheel, okay, sure, but it's a pretty weak point. The only reason you're trying to rebut my point here is that you just found out you're a hamster and OH MY GOD IS THAT A FASTER WHEEL?
  
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Reply #29 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 6:48pm
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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 5:58pm:
If your point is that life is a hamster wheel, okay, sure, but it's a pretty weak point.


Your mom is weak.

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The only reason you're trying to rebut my point here is that you just found out you're a hamster and OH MY GOD IS THAT A FASTER WHEEL?


Your super strong point is that you showed me that I'm a hamster? What is that the four millionth game of solitaire you just played while enduring your 15,876th conference call? Ok Einstein, thx.
  

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Reply #30 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 6:51pm
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Skoodge wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 3:02pm:
I'm just here for the boobs.


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Reply #31 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 8:08pm
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Gunga wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 6:48pm:
Your mom is weak.


Your super strong point is that you showed me that I'm a hamster? What is that the four millionth game of solitaire you just played while enduring your 15,876th conference call? Ok Einstein, thx.



On Gunga's side on this one.

One man's hamster wheel is another's climbing the corporate ladder is another's weeding the garden is another's dropping acid is another's version of spending time 'licking the batter from the bowl of life.'
  


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Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Reply #32 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 8:46pm
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Gunga wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 6:48pm:
Your mom is weak.


Your super strong point is that you showed me that I'm a hamster? What is that the four millionth game of solitaire you just played while enduring your 15,876th conference call? Ok Einstein, thx.

We don't choose the conference calls, Tesla.
  
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Head-Meat wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 8:08pm:
On Gunga's side on this one.

One man's hamster wheel is another's climbing the corporate ladder is another's weeding the garden is another's dropping acid is another's version of spending time 'licking the batter from the bowl of life.'

I'd say "quit and you'll understand" but YOU ALREADY DID Grin
  
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Reply #34 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 10:13pm
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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 8:46pm:
We don't choose the conference calls, Tesla.


But you did chose shitty forum software, Zero Cool.


Gunga wins this one, I think Strake is too busy multitasking the Kistilan brigades lately.  Rattle that saber and fight the good fight.

If only there was a stainer left, then all the work would be done an Strake could take time off to Yuck it up and watch a masterful troll at work.  But right now it appears there are a lot of hamsters on a lot of wheels.  That spammer honeypot has shown me a lot of wheels spinning....

I feel sad for them.
  

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Reply #35 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 10:14pm
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Kistilan wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 10:13pm:
But you did chose shitty forum software, Zero Cool.


Gunga wins this one, I think Strake is too busy multitasking the Kistilan brigades lately.  Rattle that saber and fight the good fight.

If only there was a stainer left, then all the work would be done an Strake could take time off to Yuck it up and watch a masterful troll at work.  But right now it appears there are a lot of hamsters on a lot of wheels.  That spammer honeypot has shown me a lot of wheels spinning....

I feel sad for them.


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Reply #36 - Aug 6th, 2020 at 10:24pm
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noamineo wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 10:14pm:



You think we need to have an intervention for Strake?

Ok, but let's take this to PM and really plan something effective.  Can we bring in Gunga and Head-Meat too on a conference call?  I think it will be more powerful if we do this together.  #superGuys
  

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Reply #37 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 2:44am
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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 11:02am:
I remember when we were bitching about the game getting too grindy... before reincarnation was introduced.


Past lives are...how you say...optional.

You don't want to do that grind, that's fine. You'll have more (player, not character) experience and better gear at cap. One of my endgame raider characters is a first lifer.

OTOH, some people enjoy serial TRing and aren't much into the endgame.

Then there are some people want the power upgrade of TRing without having to do the "work."

This is kind of like taking your car to a professional to get it suped up. This driver doesn't want to "work" on the car, they just want to enjoy driving the car. So they are willing to shell out some money to make it go a little faster.
  

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Reply #38 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 11:49am
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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 8:46pm:
We don't choose the conference calls, Tesla.


U rite, old man, U rite.
  

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Reply #39 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 11:52am
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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 8:46pm:
We don't choose the conference calls, Tesla.


That's a quality invocation of a super brain btw - I'll take it.
  

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Mattyo wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 2:47pm:
All this still makes us losers I’m 87.5% sure.


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Strake wrote on Aug 6th, 2020 at 8:46pm:
I'd say "quit and you'll understand" but YOU ALREADY DID Grin


Quit, still doesn’t understand; yet another point: Gunga.  I’m the best.
  

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Reply #42 - Aug 7th, 2020 at 8:50pm
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Gunga wrote on Aug 7th, 2020 at 7:00pm:
Quit, still doesn’t understand; yet another point: Gunga.  I’m the best.



I consistently never learn. My wife says the same thing.  Sad
  


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Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Reply #43 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 6:25am
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Strake wrote on Aug 5th, 2020 at 1:05pm:
I can't believe I just saw someone praise the past lives grind. I guess some hamsters really do need their wheels.

I believe it's really either some kind of obsessive - compulsive reward pattern that really can affect some people or Stockholm syndrome ish behaviour.

Playing much less than I used to but I REALLY like the combat, builds and playing with others. And some nostalgia ?

But holy shit, looking at 300 people still playing doing nothing except another fucking r1 life is truly insane.

Really thousands hours to have some kind of "playable" character. And they would even defend this.

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Reply #44 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 1:35pm
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Wipe wrote on Aug 8th, 2020 at 6:25am:
Really thousands hours to have some kind of "playable" character. And they would even defend this.



Here's the crazy thing.

Imagine if those hours went into building a small home. 

I think the homeless solution would be solved.  Like, you might not live in it, but if you put these thousands of hours into building a character into a charity work for a year, all gamers could possibly solve homelessness assuming an organization supplied the materials and project management/oversight on "getting the build right."

I think South Korea had something like this, mandatory community service and also a mandatory 2-year stint serving in their military before or after college.  My friend Silent Reality (Team Fortress Champion) had to do this after Michigan State even though he was multi-national and his dad was I think #2 at Coke in Europe.   All the money in the world, still had to go do a 2 year community service project for South Korea at the end.

But you look at South Korea and well, nice virus controls too.  Maybe a good idea after all.

But either way, grinding characters for thousands of hours isn't fun or productive. It's psychotic or lonely at best.
  

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Reply #45 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 3:26pm
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Kistilan wrote on Aug 8th, 2020 at 1:35pm:
Here's the crazy thing.

Imagine if those hours went into building a small home. 

I think the homeless solution would be solved.  Like, you might not live in it, but if you put these thousands of hours into building a character into a charity work for a year, all gamers could possibly solve homelessness assuming an organization supplied the materials and project management/oversight on "getting the build right."

I think South Korea had something like this, mandatory community service and also a mandatory 2-year stint serving in their military before or after college.  My friend Silent Reality (Team Fortress Champion) had to do this after Michigan State even though he was multi-national and his dad was I think #2 at Coke in Europe.   All the money in the world, still had to go do a 2 year community service project for South Korea at the end.

But you look at South Korea and well, nice virus controls too.  Maybe a good idea after all.

But either way, grinding characters for thousands of hours isn't fun or productive. It's psychotic or lonely at best.



Nothing says “service” like a mandate.
  


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Reply #46 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 5:58pm
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Wipe wrote on Aug 8th, 2020 at 6:25am:
I believe it's really either some kind of obsessive - compulsive reward pattern that really can affect some people or Stockholm syndrome ish behaviour.

Playing much less than I used to but I REALLY like the combat, builds and playing with others. And some nostalgia ?

But holy shit, looking at 300 people still playing doing nothing except another fucking r1 life is truly insane.

Really thousands hours to have some kind of "playable" character. And they would even defend this.



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Head-Meat wrote on Aug 8th, 2020 at 3:26pm:
Nothing says “service” like a mandate.


At least you take the libel accusations out of the population.

"You all served, all mandated."  Smiley   End stolen valor for habitat for humanity builders.
  

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<3 Miss you in game dude. I've been clean of the game a year now or some shit.

Hope life treating you well dude.
  
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