Since sentient stones have a different drop rate we do not know, it would be a bit risky to claim that drop rates have plummeted.

Make no mistakes, I feel the same way. I had to run over 10 WPM between EE and R4 after the gatekeeper grove update to get one, before that update I never went more than 4 runs without finding one.

This is not a case like 33% drop rate on elite which is totally false. Do you know the supposed drop rate for exp gems?

Nuic wrote on Aug 28^th, 2020 at 12:38am:



I strongly believe that whatever mechanism SSG uses to do RNG is broken on some fundamental level and the braintrust over on the motherboards is too dumb to recognize it.

Its consistency vs. eventual consistency. In simplest terms, if the drop rate is the rate they say it is, and the mechanics are working correctly, then it shouldn't take all that many runs to consistently see that rate.

Obviously we don't know what the sentient item drop rate is, but they've stated the named item drop rate is 33%. If the mechanism were working correctly, then every 10 runs you should consistently average 3 items. In practice, this is not what a large portion of the player base is experiencing.

You can not only easily go 10 runs without seeing a single item, you can do as many as 50(my personal record), some are reporting even more. And then suddenly you'll get 10 items in a row. Yes, this is all possible in RNG, but it is statistically unlikely for that many people to be reporting that much inconsistency.

When SSG examines the loot mechanics, they don't actually play the game to do it, then just run some metrics on their logs. So they're looking at 100,000 runs and seeing that 33,000 items dropped, and saying "yeah, that confirms its working the way we want"

But thats kistarded because individual players do not do 100,000 runs. We do 8 runs. And we should not fucking HAVE to do 100,000 runs to see the consistent drop rate.




Compare it to something as simple as a coin-flip. If SSG wrote a coin flipping scripts, then it would give you a couple hundred heads in a row followed by 50 tails in a row, and if over the course of a million flips it hit 50/50, they'd call it a success. That's the kind of fucked DDO's loot mechanic is.

ManyCookies wrote on Aug 28^th, 2020 at 2:51pm:


Sentient XP only drops in WPM.

And you are correct, it is not on the same loot table as named items. You can get a sentient gem and a named item in the same chest.

Nuic wrote on Aug 28^th, 2020 at 12:38am:


I commend you on your efforts, well done. Too many people have been buying the duplicated tensor boxes, much to the detriment of the game and themselves. It is great to hear about someone playing the game as it is intended.

I ran WPM on elite yesterday and got 3 names items across 6 characters... and it was the same named item all 3 times. But yes! I totally believe the RNG is working correctly and there's nothing at all wrong! There are 5 named items in that chest, so clearly the RNG is working perfectly. Yup. Nothing odd here.