OK, I'm running quests and pick up a nice LV 24 ring cha10, false life 40 as random loot, cute. Bit too high level for my tastes but cute, will totally fit on an under-geared alt.



30 minutes I finish the chain and go turn in to get some guild point when I notice another charisma ring that I, obviously, have to see. Mmmm, LV 21 cha10, false life 36



4hp of difference in EPIC make for a 3 levels gap in EPIC levels?? Lynnabel are you fucking seeing this? Random loot perfectly distributed to cover all levels. Fucking muppets are not even good as punchbags. Feel free to post the pics on the mobo if you want, I'm not delving into that cesspit anymore, I still have some self respect

Lootgen spawning without being equal to its power level? I am shocked.
Fwiw level 21 ring at max is 10 cha 38 false life, at 24 it's 11 cha and 42 false life.

What a shitty fucking thread tho, literally who cares about lootgen not being max stats.

Artorias wrote on Aug 30^th, 2020 at 8:40pm:


No one here missed the point.

Items have a max value for their stat. That doesn't mean every lootgen item will have that value.  If the max value for Charisma on a level 24 ring is +11 Cha, it might have +11 Cha or it might have +10 Cha or it might only have +9 Cha.

You happened to get a good ML 21 ring and a mediocre ML 24 ring. Some loot is better than others. Because it's a bit random.

If you're going to complain about random lootgen, why not complain about the idiot magic item crafters who decided they needed to make a Combustion scepter of Void lore? Seriously? What jackass artificer is making these items?

Honestly, I’ve yet to see rangen loot on par with what you can craft.  I mean, you’ve got to have the sun, moon and all the stars lined up to get effects with any amount of synergy, but the values are still completely fucking useless.  I mean what’s the point of having one of those new thaumaturgic staffs if it’s ML8 with stats you can craft on ML5?

At the very least the effects should be on par with cannith crafting, but for the system to actually make any useful sense, random loot should give better stats than what similarly leveled crafted gear can give...by say +1.  Without that, pretty much any further upgrades they do to rangen loot will be an absolute waste of time. 

The only real good to come out of the latest rangen overhaul was to add double augment gear back into the loot tables...which again are really only useful when blanked for crafting.  Unless they also unraveled some of their shittastic spaghetto code in the process, everything else they did in this last pass has been pretty much a waste of time.

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 1:34pm:


SSG knows only 3 ways to give things to players:

1. Paywall(not used for anything that could be seen as an 'advantage' like loot, because 'P2W')

2. HUGE grindwall(used for anything halfway decent)

3. RNG with odds so low only confirmation bias makes anyone believe getting something is possible.

The entire concept of working for something and then getting it is largely lost to them:

SSG Dev: "Wait... so... you're saying, if a player does X a set number of times, they should receive Y?"
Common Sense: "Yep, and X should be predictable and attainable without playing the game like a second job."
SSG Dev: "I don't understand."



Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 1:34pm:


IN THEORY, the loot progression should look something like:

Starter Gear --> Rangen Gear --> Crafted Gear --> Named Gear --> Raid Gear

In practice, the odds of getting useful rangen gear are next to none and crafting is so time and resource-intensive that you'll hit cap long before you can make a lvl 12 item. The most efficient way to gear a character is to play naked until you get named items.


Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 1:34pm:


/Agree

Rangen loot needs to synergize and drop with enough consistency to work as a useful placeholder. Every item doesn't have to be best-in-slot for every build, but everything SHOULD synergize at least with itelf(such as Con+insightful Con+false life all on the same item EVERY TIME). Otherwise its not even worth looking at.

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Aug 31^st, 2020 at 1:34pm:


I saw an interesting piece of random gen gear today: a thaumaturgic short sword.