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Reply #200 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:37pm
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I blame this thread for the nerfs.  The devs read it and decided to nerf.
  
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Reply #201 - Feb 11th, 2021 at 3:47pm
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I blame this thread for the nerfs.  The devs read it and decided to nerf, and Rubbins read it and decided to spank Ginger-dim's ass publicly.  



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Reply #202 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 12:34pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 10th, 2021 at 6:10pm:
Not. Anymore. Thank you fucking SSG nerfs.


Sorcs will still be fine.
  
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Reply #203 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 1:27pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Feb 12th, 2021 at 12:34pm:
Sorcs will still be fine.


In the sense that they will still exist and be very technically playable, yes. Still worth all the time, energy, and money put into them? Not so much.
  

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Reply #204 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 2:19pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 12th, 2021 at 1:27pm:
In the sense that they will still exist and be very technically playable, yes. Still worth all the time, energy, and money put into them? Not so much.



They are now rolling back the CL cap on meteor swarm. That means that red drag helm just became even more important.
  


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Reply #205 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 4:50pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Feb 12th, 2021 at 2:19pm:
They are now rolling back the CL cap on meteor swarm. That means that red drag helm just became even more important.


WHEW!

The cds I could live with, i wouldnt mind rotating more spells, but the CL cap was fucking bad.
  

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Reply #206 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 5:46pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 12th, 2021 at 4:50pm:
WHEW!

The cds I could live with, i wouldnt mind rotating more spells, but the CL cap was fucking bad.



The helm roughly compensates for losing Burnscar Sash. I've even done the math before.
  


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Re: How are you playing Sorc?
Reply #207 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 6:21pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Feb 12th, 2021 at 5:46pm:
The helm roughly compensates for losing Burnscar Sash. I've even done the math before.


Loosing burnscar stash stings like a motherfucker. Seriously if the problem was "Access to spellpower" - why not give everyone else equal access to spell power? Assholes.

Its even worse when you remember the number of times they have explicitly told us that "retroactively changing items is too hard". Apparently it WAS too hard until the cocksucking forumites complained about inquisitives, then goodbye ratcatcher.
  

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Re: How are you playing Sorc?
Reply #208 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 6:28pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 12th, 2021 at 6:21pm:
Loosing burnscar stash stings like a motherfucker. Seriously if the problem was "Access to spellpower" - why not give everyone else equal access to spell power? Assholes.

Its even worse when you remember the number of times they have explicitly told us that "retroactively changing items is too hard". Apparently it WAS too hard until the cocksucking forumites complained about inquisitives, then goodbye ratcatcher.



Yeah I'm not a fan of that decision. The rationale was about locking the belt slot--here's an idea: turn the belt into an augment. Have it take 5 of em if necessary. But, to just nerf it was a weak solution.
  


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Re: How are you playing Sorc?
Reply #209 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 7:36pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Feb 12th, 2021 at 6:28pm:
Yeah I'm not a fan of that decision. The rationale was about locking the belt slot--here's an idea: turn the belt into an augment. Have it take 5 of em if necessary. But, to just nerf it was a weak solution.


Or introduce a belt with a universal stacking bonus. Or introduce a crafting system like in KotB where a single farmed item can be traded for a belt with the appropriate spell power type. Or an item for another slot with the appropriate spellpower type.

Really any choice other than "nerf the crap out of it". The belt literally becomes useless now, and given the weeks I spent farming for it, that pisses me off.
  

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Re: How are you playing Sorc?
Reply #210 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 7:08am
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The Ravenloft belt is a bad item. It's best in slot for all the casters of the relevant elements. Doesn't matter what you have on any other belt, you wear the Ravenloft belt because the spell power is that important. 

Sure you could change a bunch of other items to have Enhancement spellpower or add an augment of Enhancement spellpower - but that then means you have the general increase of spell power that they are trying to roll back and just perpetuates the problem. Introducing new items takes a while for them to filter out into peoples hands and perpetuates the problem until people have the item and then perpetuates the problem of too much spellpower. 

Changing Enhancement to Equipment still means that the belts are fine. 
fire spellpower and crit, acid spellpower and crit and a slot (and the other elemental variants).  That's still a solid item and can replace 2 1-handed items. 

Personally I think removing Enhancement spell power is a good change.

Go back 10 years.  ESoS was the be all and do all of weapons - today it's still a pretty good choice and reasonably competitive. But back then nothing else came close - a raid tank with that was the DPS king and it made everything else obsolete.  Balancing around having ESoS in a raid and not have ESoS in a raid was I imagine a real pain.  That was an example of bad itemization and it took years to fix.  But, even now a lvl 20 ESoS is still a reasonable weapon to be using.
  

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Reply #211 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 8:08am
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Feb 13th, 2021 at 7:08am:
The Ravenloft belt is a bad item. It's best in slot for all the casters

Incorrect
  
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Reply #212 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 8:38am
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Justanotherlurker wrote on Feb 13th, 2021 at 8:08am:
Incorrect

It is correct for any DPS caster (which is the only viable caster at end game currently unless you have a static group to run with) who doesn’t have the materials for a crap ton of Legendary Greensteel.
  
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Reply #213 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 8:42am
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Feb 13th, 2021 at 8:38am:
It is correct for any DPS caster (which is the only viable caster at end game currently unless you have a static group to run with) who doesn’t have the materials for a crap ton of Legendary Greensteel.

I don't think you know what best in slot means
  
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Re: How are you playing Sorc?
Reply #214 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 10:00am
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Feb 13th, 2021 at 7:08am:
The Ravenloft belt is a bad item. It's best in slot for all the casters of the relevant elements. Doesn't matter what you have on any other belt, you wear the Ravenloft belt because the spell power is that important. 


I do correct myself, with the legendary Greensteel option which provides an alternative.  I don't have any of that so for my damage caster characters it's BIS.  Thanks for the comments guys, I had meant to mention it, but forgot.

Of course if you are playing a DC caster then it's not, but I would assume the context of my comment made it obvious that I was talking about damage caster
  

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Re: How are you playing Sorc?
Reply #215 - Feb 13th, 2021 at 10:11am
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The Ravenloft belts were obviously a mistake. I'm pretty sure they were supposed to have the boring non-stacking type of equipment spellpower, but somebody messed up. That being said, the time to fix such an obvious mistake would have been the very next patch after Ravenloft released. If you're going to let it go for 3+ years so that everyone builds around it, then you should just accept that it is a part of the game now. Simply design other items with enhancement type spellpower and suddenly there are gearing decisions for that slot again.

It's not really comparable to the eSoS problem, because eSoS was a rare chase item. Whereas, anyone can farm up a ravenloft belt easily within a day. You'd have to be unlucky to not pull it within 1 ransack cycle.
  

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Reply #216 - Feb 16th, 2021 at 1:39pm
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Come on Ginga-dim, you have had a week's break to work on some new defense of this shit. Personally I can't wait to see what lame ass posts you are reduced to in an effort to try and distract. Hurry though, Rubbins will be back at some point. 

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Reply #218 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 4:54am
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Does anyone have a gear set up for an Elec sorc, the sharn sets tend to favour cold and fire.

I was considering the Magewright and Chained Elements sets

While wearing two pieces from the Masterful Magewright set, you gain:

+3 Artifact bonus to all Spell DCs (note items display +4 for this bonus, but only +3 is actually granted)
+4 Artifact bonus to Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma
+5 Artifact bonus to Perform and Concentration

While wearing two pieces from the Chained Elemental set, you gain:

+10% Artifact bonus to Fire, Cold, Acid, and Electric Spell Critical Chance
+50 Artifact bonus to Fire, Cold, Acid, and Electric Spell Power
  
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Reply #219 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 8:10am
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Doogy wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 4:54am:
Does anyone have a gear set up for an Elec sorc, the sharn sets tend to favour cold and fire.

I was considering the Magewright and Chained Elements sets

While wearing two pieces from the Masterful Magewright set, you gain:

+3 Artifact bonus to all Spell DCs (note items display +4 for this bonus, but only +3 is actually granted)
+4 Artifact bonus to Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma
+5 Artifact bonus to Perform and Concentration

While wearing two pieces from the Chained Elemental set, you gain:

+10% Artifact bonus to Fire, Cold, Acid, and Electric Spell Critical Chance
+50 Artifact bonus to Fire, Cold, Acid, and Electric Spell Power

You can main hands a Nightmother's Scepter and off-hand an electric orb if you don't have anything better. That gets you something useful at cap while you're farming up the "real" endgame items.
  
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Re: How are you playing Sorc?
Reply #220 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm
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Doogy wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 4:54am:
Does anyone have a gear set up for an Elec sorc, the sharn sets tend to favour cold and fire.

I was considering the Magewright and Chained Elements sets

While wearing two pieces from the Masterful Magewright set, you gain:

+3 Artifact bonus to all Spell DCs (note items display +4 for this bonus, but only +3 is actually granted)
+4 Artifact bonus to Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma
+5 Artifact bonus to Perform and Concentration

While wearing two pieces from the Chained Elemental set, you gain:

+10% Artifact bonus to Fire, Cold, Acid, and Electric Spell Critical Chance
+50 Artifact bonus to Fire, Cold, Acid, and Electric Spell Power


Tried https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legendary_Wild_Frost ?

Spellcasting Implement +29
+15 Enhancement Bonus
Glaciation +202
Insightful Glaciation +101 <----
Ice Lore +29%
Conjuration Focus +8
  

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Reply #221 - Feb 17th, 2021 at 3:28pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 17th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
Tried https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legendary_Wild_Frost ?

Spellcasting Implement +29
+15 Enhancement Bonus
Glaciation +202
Insightful Glaciation +101 <----
Ice Lore +29%
Conjuration Focus +8

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Reply #222 - Feb 18th, 2021 at 5:23am
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Thanks
but i was more interested in the which Sharn sets for the ARTIFACT bonuses.
I guess ill use Legendary Hruit's Influence and slot in Artifact augment set Charisma and sort out the 35% asf with 2 x fillis and asf augment
  
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Reply #223 - Feb 18th, 2021 at 6:05am
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Reply #224 - Feb 18th, 2021 at 1:33pm
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Doogy wrote on Feb 18th, 2021 at 5:23am:
Thanks
but i was more interested in the which Sharn sets for the ARTIFACT bonuses.
I guess ill use Legendary Hruit's Influence and slot in Artifact augment set Charisma and sort out the 35% asf with 2 x fillis and asf augment


Can also get good ASF from EK tree. I usually put points in there for the Imp mage armor and imp shield anyway.
  

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