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Newest U47 Lamma Preview Notes are Up
Sep 16th, 2020 at 4:30pm
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I've done a cursory look. Some of the 2-piece sets that work with Sharn will be good.

The thing that stood out to me was this:

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Overwhelming Shifting While under the effects of Razorclaw Shift, you gain +2 to Hit and Damage with Handwraps and a +1 Primal bonus to Critical Multiplier with Handwraps.


This is in the Iconic tree.

DPS Monks are getting a bump. Nice.
  


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Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 4:33pm
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The downside is that there is no wis and even a -2 wis pen in the tree. Still, for straight DPS Monk, this will be the race, I think.

I'm sure there will be more creativity with this.
  


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Reply #2 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 5:28pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
The downside is that there is no wis and even a -2 wis pen in the tree. Still, for straight DPS Monk, this will be the race, I think.

I'm sure there will be more creativity with this.


Maybe wrap Falconry for wis?
  

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Head-Meat wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
The downside is that there is no wis and even a -2 wis pen in the tree. Still, for straight DPS Monk, this will be the race, I think.

I'm sure there will be more creativity with this.

At least 2 +1 LR hearts to make that happen.

+1 and +20 LR needed if you want to go pure Monk.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 6:36pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
At least 2 +1 LR hearts to make that happen.

+1 and +20 LR needed if you want to go pure Monk.




We sacrifice for dps, bro!


Is that bc of alignment? Hmm...
  


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Reply #5 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 6:42pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
At least 2 +1 LR hearts to make that happen.

+1 and +20 LR needed if you want to go pure Monk.


Shit that's right. Why do they do that?
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 6:54pm
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noamineo wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 6:42pm:
Shit that's right. Why do they do that?



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Reply #7 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 6:55pm
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I'm almost proud of their evil genius.. So evil, though. Whether it's lawful or chaotic, I'm not sure. I mean, SSG is definitely chaotic. But, that's almost like a law unto themselves. So, not sure what that means now.
  


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Reply #8 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 7:22pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
At least 2 +1 LR hearts to make that happen.

+1 and +20 LR needed if you want to go pure Monk.



People pointed it out in the thread on mobo too:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/518085-U47-Preview-3-Razorclaw-Shifter...
  


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Reply #9 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 7:36pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 7:22pm:


I do think steel has a valid point that wraps are melee weapons, not "monk" weapons. I happen to like the DDO has no class-restricted weapons(besides the Mad Lute). The logic is of course that the Shifter Iconic will be a wraps-using barbarian, not "the new monk race".

That being said of course they also made it the absolute best for pure monk.
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 16th, 2020 at 7:39pm
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So I spent some time looking over the new loot from the standalone dungeon. On the one hand I'm excited because they're closing the gear desert with some ml27 BtA stuff... except its all crap and extremely druid-specific. What the fuck, SSG? Look, not all of us got in on LGS duping. Some of us actively need some ML 25/26 gear.
  

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its a trap, the enhancement required for the +1 crit multiplier makes it so you will be uncentered
  
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and it would be +1 lesser +20 lesser and alignment change to be 20 monk, which doing all that to be uncentered is not fun
  
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LookinForAGoodTime wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 8:12pm:
and it would be +1 lesser +20 lesser and alignment change to be 20 monk, which doing all that to be uncentered is not fun


Not if you start the character on hardcore, die on the first quest, and transfer over as lvl1.

(Yes I know hardcrap is being shuttered again before U47; but lets me real: it'll be back in 3 weeks, tops).
  

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still, you cant receive the +1 crit multiplier without being uncentered, so no point
  
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Per Lyn:

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If it helps, removing the DC on the damage procs is already on my list. This preview I was more concerned with, yanno, building an entire crafting system and making sure it works Tongue


Because DDO needed another crafting system.
  

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LookinForAGoodTime wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 8:16pm:
still, you cant receive the +1 crit multiplier without being uncentered, so no point

Does overwhelming have Destructive as a prerequisite?  Llama notes doesn’t say and I can’t see the tree in Llama for myself.
  
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Yeah, its not on the forums, but on lamm its currently a pre req
  
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Yeah, they specifically said it wasn't intended to go well with actual monk IIRC.
  

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I wonder why they changed Sense Weakness.
  
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Reply #21 - Sep 17th, 2020 at 5:47am
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LookinForAGoodTime wrote on Sep 16th, 2020 at 8:03pm:
its a trap, the enhancement required for the +1 crit multiplier makes it so you will be uncentered


It's not a trap. I wish the monk players would legit fuck off from the Razorclaw thread entirely.

That being said; it's clearly set up to prevent monks from using it. Which is more than fair; you can't expect them to create a HANDWRAP focused iconic, and let monks double-dip when they've explicitly stated time and time again that this is designed for non monks.
  
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kum-gulp wrote on Sep 17th, 2020 at 3:53am:
I wonder why they changed Sense Weakness.


Supposedly performance issues; I assume because their spaghetti code was shitting the bed when having to calculate 3 additional damage sources per hit on mobs. It wasn't a problem when the max you'd see this occurring at a time was maybe the 5 hits from DoD, but now that you've got everyone and their mother strikethrough-ing packs of mobs it's probably causing lag.

On the real side; probably to nerf sense weakness in areas where the untyped damage bonus provided damage that bypassed various DR buffs.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 17th, 2020 at 1:40pm
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Edrein wrote on Sep 17th, 2020 at 5:47am:
It's not a trap. I wish the monk players would legit fuck off from the Razorclaw thread entirely.

That being said; it's clearly set up to prevent monks from using it. Which is more than fair; you can't expect them to create a HANDWRAP focused iconic, and let monks double-dip when they've explicitly stated time and time again that this is designed for non monks.

I have to agree. The Iconic Razorclaw race and tree is clearly focused on Barbarians. I'm considering changing my monk into a Razorclaw Barb when it comes out. At least both his PRR and MRR will be significantly higher. I expect the DPS to be about the same.

I'll miss the Jade Strike and EIN stuff, though.
  

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Edrein wrote on Sep 17th, 2020 at 5:49am:
Supposedly performance issues; I assume because their spaghetti code was shitting the bed when having to calculate 3 additional damage sources per hit on mobs. It wasn't a problem when the max you'd see this occurring at a time was maybe the 5 hits from DoD, but now that you've got everyone and their mother strikethrough-ing packs of mobs it's probably causing lag.

On the real side; probably to nerf sense weakness in areas where the untyped damage bonus provided damage that bypassed various DR buffs.

Aha, thanks. Makes sense having to lose the processing. They could've left it as an untyped though, that was why I liked it. Helped a little with laziness around weapon switching for DR.
  
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