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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #50 - Feb 24th, 2021 at 9:54pm
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Shunned wrote on Feb 24th, 2021 at 7:25pm:
How does this work?  I slot 3 of the same augment and it becomes the new set?  What if I have 2 slots open on those 3 items?  Can I get 2 sets, ie 6 slotted augments, at the same time?  Say cunning impact and perfect silence at the same time, using the same 3 items since they have 2 open slots each?


To actually answer your original question: you can't get the same set bonus twice(because its the same bonus type)  and if you slot an augment in an item that has a set bonus, it overrides that set bonus.

So for example if you wanted to have Part of the Family and Walwatch you would need to wear all 3 pieces for 1 set and then slot 3 augs in different pieces of equipment to get the bonus from the other set. But there is a catch: its not the whole set bonus. I dont know why its taking for fucking ever to get this shut on the DDO wiki, but for example the legendary Hruit's influence only gives the +4 Artifact bonus to Wisdom.

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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #51 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 12:04am
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noamineo wrote on Feb 24th, 2021 at 9:54pm:
To actually answer your original question: you can't get the same set bonus twice(because its the same bonus type)  and if you slot an augment in an item that has a set bonus, it overrides that set bonus.

So for example if you wanted to have Part of the Family and Walwatch you would need to wear all 3 pieces for 1 set and then slot 3 augs in different pieces of equipment to get the bonus from the other set. But there is a catch: its not the whole set bonus. I dont know why its taking for fucking ever to get this shut on the DDO wiki, but for example the legendary Hruit's influence only gives the +4 Artifact bonus to Wisdom.

And learn to make a new thread when you want to ask questions.


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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #52 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 2:34pm
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Shunned wrote on Feb 24th, 2021 at 7:25pm:
How does this work?  I slot 3 of the same augment and it becomes the new set?  What if I have 2 slots open on those 3 items?  Can I get 2 sets, ie 6 slotted augments, at the same time?  Say cunning impact and perfect silence at the same time, using the same 3 items since they have 2 open slots each?


Nah fam.

What are there, 11 total slots? (head, neck, eyes, armor, cloak, wrists, gloves, ring ring, belt, boot, trinket).. Ok 12 slots.

For each SLOT, you can only have ONE "set bonus" active.

Let's say you were wearing part of the family dps set. That's gloves, armor, and necklace. IF you were to throw a set bonus augment on your gloves, it would overwrite part of the family, and you wouldn't have that set anymore. Don't do that.

So, below might be a set-up for a DPS toon:

Head: Summer Set
Neck: Part of Family
Eyes: +4 Con Augment
Armor: Part of the family
Cloak: Winter Set
Wrists: Winter Set
Glove: Part of the Family
Ring: Winter Set
Ring: +4 Con Augment
Belt: Summer Set
Boot: Winter Set
Trinket: +4 Con Augment

This isn't meant to be optimal. THis is just an example of how you could have
-Part of the Family
-Two-Piece Summer
-Four-Piece Winter
-+4 Artifact Con

All at the same time.


If you, for example, used your helm slot to put one of your CON augments in, you would no longer get the 2-piece Summer set bonus.

You should be able to extrapolate from this example.

NOTE: The SINGLE augments (like +2 profane stats) do not interrupt the set bonus thing.
  


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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #53 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:31pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 2:34pm:
You should be able to extrapolate from this example.


What if I put two augments in the same item slot?  How does the game know which to set is dominant?  I was thinking of using items with multiple augment slots, slotting two different 3 augment sets for easy swapping.  Meaning, having helmet and gloves have two sets, and swap the cloak for example to switch back and forth between the two sets?

So if I can't have 2 sets active using the same 3 items, how does the game decide which set is dominant?
  
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Reply #54 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 8:14pm
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Shunned wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:31pm:
What if I put two augments in the same item slot?  How does the game know which to set is dominant?  I was thinking of using items with multiple augment slots, slotting two different 3 augment sets for easy swapping.  Meaning, having helmet and gloves have two sets, and swap the cloak for example to switch back and forth between the two sets?

So if I can't have 2 sets active using the same 3 items, how does the game decide which set is dominant?

3 Guesses.  If one is a real set and one is an augment, use the real set.
Alphabetically ranked augment gets priority if both are augments.  If two augments,  the one in the first augment slot gets priority.

Those are just basic guesses based on how I might code the same kind of idea.
  
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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #55 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:07pm
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Shunned wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:31pm:
What if I put two augments in the same item slot?  How does the game know which to set is dominant?  I was thinking of using items with multiple augment slots, slotting two different 3 augment sets for easy swapping.  Meaning, having helmet and gloves have two sets, and swap the cloak for example to switch back and forth between the two sets?

So if I can't have 2 sets active using the same 3 items, how does the game decide which set is dominant?


My understanding is all 3 augments have to be in a different item and all 3 items need to not have a set bonus(unless you don't want that set bonus).

I don't know why none of this info is on the wiki yet. Whoever runs that thing is really dropping the fucking ball.
  

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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #56 - Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:11pm
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Here we go found some if it:

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These level 30 augments can be slotted in any augment color slot. They can be crafted in the Hut from Beyond (lower north harbor) in the Cauldron of Cadence. The Augment Set bonus takes priority over Item Item Set bonus, when slotted into a Set Item. In other words: "Slotting a Set Augment in any Augment Slot of a Set Item will override its existing Set Bonus to Augment Set Bonus."

Set bonuses from augment sets, will not override filigree set bonuses. Augment sets must be slotted in 3 separate items.


That's literally all there is. Thats how "meh" this fucking mechanic is.
  

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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #57 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 2:56pm
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Shunned wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 7:31pm:
What if I put two augments in the same item slot?  How does the game know which to set is dominant?  I was thinking of using items with multiple augment slots, slotting two different 3 augment sets for easy swapping.  Meaning, having helmet and gloves have two sets, and swap the cloak for example to switch back and forth between the two sets?

So if I can't have 2 sets active using the same 3 items, how does the game decide which set is dominant?



Dunno which will count. Experiment and let us know.  Smiley
  


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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #58 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 3:30pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 25th, 2021 at 10:07pm:
My understanding is all 3 augments have to be in a different item and all 3 items need to not have a set bonus(unless you don't want that set bonus).

I don't know why none of this info is on the wiki yet. Whoever runs that thing is really dropping the fucking ball.

You do know that wikis are added to by a whole community of people and not just the wiki owner, right?

How about learning to edit the wiki and make the changes yourself?
  

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Reply #59 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 3:44pm
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Technomage wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 3:30pm:
You do know that wikis are added to by a whole community of people and not just the wiki owner, right?

How about learning to edit the wiki and make the changes yourself?

Honestly, I've been thinking of doing some work with that lately.  Seems like have the pages don't exist or are flagged for needing and update when I view them.  The other people there cool or are they forum paladin dickheads that run it?
  
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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #60 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 4:01pm
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Honestly, I've been thinking of doing some work with that lately.  Seems like have the pages don't exist or are flagged for needing and update when I view them.  The other people there cool or are they forum paladin dickheads that run it?

Shoemaker can be a dick but everyone else is pretty cool and helpful.
  

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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #61 - Feb 26th, 2021 at 11:42pm
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Technomage wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 3:30pm:
You do know that wikis are added to by a whole community of people and not just the wiki owner, right?

How about learning to edit the wiki and make the changes yourself?


Tried that. For some reason the wiki clique can role back any edits I make within 12 hours, but they can't seem to add basic information on soul-forged augments. Go fuckin' figure.
  

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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #62 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 8:01am
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noamineo wrote on Feb 26th, 2021 at 11:42pm:
Tried that. For some reason the wiki clique can role back any edits I make within 12 hours, but they can't seem to add basic information on soul-forged augments. Go fuckin' figure.

Are you making useful additions or are you shitposting?

It’s a lot easier to click “undo” than it is to make real content.
  
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Reply #63 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 5:03pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 8:01am:
Are you making useful additions or are you shitposting?

It’s a lot easier to click “undo” than it is to make real content.


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Re: U48 P2 - Augments
Reply #64 - Feb 27th, 2021 at 10:35pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Feb 27th, 2021 at 8:01am:
Are you making useful additions or are you shitposting?


I was literally just fixing spelling mistakes. The kind of low-level shit-work you'd think they'd be grateful for. It did not take a huge number of rollbacks before I said "fuck it" though.
  

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