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Nov 24th, 2020 at 7:45pm
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So a bunch of years ago(I believe pre-MOTU) I got suckered into backup-healing a shroud raid on my barely potty-trained cleric. At one point, the sorc asked me to "just keep casting heals" then did *something* that re-filled his spell-points very quickly at the cost of hit-points(which I was able to keep topped-off by rapid-firing different healing spells).

What the hell did I see?

I remember being told at the time and I assume whatever it was has since long been removed from the game, but it has always bugged me.
  

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Re: Ok, game archeology time
Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 7:48pm
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Blood Sacrifice from (Epic) Twisted Talisman?
https://ddowiki.com/page/Blood_Sacrifice
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 9:03pm
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...Plausibly. I seem to recall him regending a lot more than 250 SP and taking a whole lot more than taking enough damage that he needed several heals to survive. I know things were different back then but even on elite that was only 190 damage.

Side note: blood sacrifice cost more HP on higher diffs, but does the SP also scale?
  

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Reply #3 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 9:11pm
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Twisted Talisman was my first thought. Next thought are the larva from Xachasian (so?) Eardweller. But I can’t recall if those damaged you
  


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Reply #4 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 9:12pm
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Also could have been torc + conc op + shroud blades??
  


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Re: Ok, game archeology time
Reply #5 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 9:25pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 9:12pm:
Also could have been torc + conc op + shroud blades??


No I distinctly remember he was standing in a "safe" spot(its just one of those memories thats fixed in my mind), plus he was regenning WAY to fast for it to be blades(you can stand in the spears dancing and still only proc like 4 torc hits).
  

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Reply #6 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 2:17pm
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sp pots and going apeshit on harry to "tank" him so as to get a win in a bad shroud?
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 2:43pm
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sp pots and going apeshit on harry to "tank" him so as to get a win in a bad shroud?


Nope. Was in part 1.
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:03pm
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My thoughts:

1. Epic talisman could have epic'd version of blood sacrifice spell for a brief time?
2. There was an exploit back in the days that let you carry 2*each exclusive item (buyback and dragging from bank while DC'ed), also prolly some exploit to fast-using it so this guy could just use 4*blood sacrifice (2*heroic, 2*epic) in no-time.
3. If he was pure arti it might be that Blood Sacrifice scaled with arti Arcanotechnician capstone to CL:20, and prolly this spell takes more HP giving more SP with CL upgraded. Also some levels with arti gives wondrous items up to +5 with it's CL.
4. EROSS, or ROSS with artificer wondous items/capstone, and he just removed his HP/CON ring to do that Wink
5. Torc procing on some self-damaging skills/spells, and maybe this guy managed to self-damage for 1dmg but hundrets times. Maybe a vicious weapon, wearing 2 uncleansed GS, dunno.

Maybe we can excavate some old exploit out of it Wink
  

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Re: Ok, game archeology time
Reply #9 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:32pm
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Oracler wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:03pm:
My thoughts:
1. Epic talisman could have epic'd version of blood sacrifice spell for a brief time?
2. There was an exploit back in the days that let you carry 2*each exclusive item (buyback and dragging from bank while DC'ed), also prolly some exploit to fast-using it so this guy could just use 4*blood sacrifice (2*heroic, 2*epic) in no-time.


So far this is most plausible based on the amount of damage taken vs. amount of SP regained.

Oracler wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:03pm:
3. If he was pure arti it might be that Blood Sacrifice scaled with arti Arcanotechnician capstone to CL:20, and prolly this spell takes more HP giving more SP with CL upgraded. Also some levels with arti gives wondrous items up to +5 with it's CL.
4. EROSS, or ROSS with artificer wondous items/capstone, and he just removed his HP/CON ring to do that Wink


Nope. Pure sorc.

Oracler wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:03pm:
5. Torc procing on some self-damaging skills/spells, and maybe this guy managed to self-damage for 1dmg but hundrets times. Maybe a vicious weapon, wearing 2 uncleansed GS, dunno.


Was happening too fast and procing too often to be tork/conc. And generated way more SP. Unless blood sacrifice can proc torc?

Oracler wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:03pm:
Maybe we can excavate some old exploit out of it Wink


That might be fun Tongue
  

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