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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #50 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 2:11am: I would love to hop this would mean scaling UI, better inventory systems, updated UI all over the game, ray tracing support, etc They already said an inventory overhaul was on the agenda for 2021, so here's hoping.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Rose-tinted Goggles Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Nostalgia! Posts: 191 Joined: Jun 3^rd, 2018	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #51 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 6:32pm	Print Post
	OgreMealReady wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 2:28am: [url] Bitch ass nigga Severlin told that there will be no impact on development on LOTRO/DDO, but there's an upgrade planned for LOTRO in 2022. While slightly off topic, Amazon is working on a new lotr mmo. If it happens to release and not be a epic failure like their recent game was. Im sure this will impact lotro, upgrade or not. Which in turn could impact ddo. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

	Update 1-13: The golden age of DDO rest wrote on Oct 26^th, 2012 at 12:53pm: DDO is still the old fat wife I have at home who I can't fucking stand, but we've been together so long I can't see myself leaving.
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Snu Snu Shroud Slacker Offline Drama is boring Posts: 1047 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2012	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #52 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 1:13pm: They already said an inventory overhaul was on the agenda for 2021, so here's hoping. Are you able to link this? Pretty please.

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #53 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 9:33pm	Print Post
	Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 6:32pm: I Im sure this will impact lotro, upgrade or not. Which in turn could impact ddo. I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection. What kind of impact are you envisioning? Positive? Negative? What's the rationale behind the impact?


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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #54 - Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:29pm	Print Post
	As long as they can maintain the bones of the system and keep producing the fantastic content they have for the last few years I will be over the moon!


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Farmer Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Dharma! Posts: 117 Joined: Aug 26^th, 2016	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #55 - Dec 6^th, 2020 at 6:30am	Print Post
	Bishop wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:29pm: and keep producing the fantastic content they have for the last few years Ugh, that was a bit too much sarcasm for the morning...


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Rose-tinted Goggles Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Nostalgia! Posts: 191 Joined: Jun 3^rd, 2018	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #56 - Dec 6^th, 2020 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 9:33pm: I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection. What kind of impact are you envisioning? Positive? Negative? What's the rationale behind the impact? My rationale, which could be very flawed, was the following: Since lotro is seemingly the golden goose of ssg. Amazons new lotr mmo, if successful, could take players away from lotro. Reducing profits. I'm not sure what the profit margins are at ssg but it could be possible that lotro is picking up the slack so to speak in terms of keeping ssg going. This could potentially impact ddo in getting reduced budgets or simply ssg shutting down sooner than expected.

	Update 1-13: The golden age of DDO rest wrote on Oct 26^th, 2012 at 12:53pm: DDO is still the old fat wife I have at home who I can't fucking stand, but we've been together so long I can't see myself leaving.
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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #57 - Dec 6^th, 2020 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	Farmer wrote on Dec 6^th, 2020 at 6:30am: Ugh, that was a bit too much sarcasm for the morning... Hey, some people really enjoy skinner boxes.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #58 - Dec 6^th, 2020 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	Snu Snu wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 6:53pm: Are you able to link this? Pretty please. Unfortunately no, It was in a dev post like 9-10 months back. There were no details, just that a storage/inventory overhaul was in the works.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #59 - Dec 6^th, 2020 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	Rose-tinted Goggles wrote on Dec 6^th, 2020 at 12:23pm: My rationale, which could be very flawed, was the following: Since lotro is seemingly the golden goose of ssg. Amazons new lotr mmo, if successful, could take players away from lotro. Reducing profits. I'm not sure what the profit margins are at ssg but it could be possible that lotro is picking up the slack so to speak in terms of keeping ssg going. This could potentially impact ddo in getting reduced budgets or simply ssg shutting down sooner than expected. OK. I'm not sure that the data shows that Lotro is the "golden goose". It certainly has more subscribers, but as far as revenue goes, they are much closer. 13 million annualized vs. 10 million annualized. Given that DDO has a much higher per player revenue generation, the argument could be made that DDO is more of a cash cow than LotRO. Regardless, at 10 million in annualized revenue, I'm not convinced that DDO needs propping up by LOTRO. Maybe the collective inferiority complex people have had about DDO doesn't match the data.


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Rickyretardo Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 105 Joined: Jul 28^th, 2018	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #60 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 1:17am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Dec 5^th, 2020 at 11:54am: Daybreak was the company that put games to greener pastures in their late game life days while trying to squeze as much revenue as possible. Now the new one looks interesting, even if I'm a bit biased by working for a Swedish company in another, but related domain. While, I didn't know there was a Swedish game company playing in the big league, I knew about the Finnish and the Icelandic one ( respectively Supercell and CCP Games ) so it's not a big surprise. ( now I need to find a Norwegian one... and I'll consider Lego as the big Danish game company to complete Scandinavia ) I googled it for you. Some really big fish in the Baltic Sea (minecraft, battlefront, HOI, candy crush): Mojang. Embracer Group. King (Midasplayer) Stillfront Group. EA Digital Illusions CE.(DICE) Paradox Interactive. G5 Entertainment. Ubisoft Entertainment Sweden (Massive) Funcom is norwegian I think.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #61 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 1:28pm	Print Post
	I'm looking for companies that have the head located there. ( the company HQ, the share trading, where the company started... all the little things that denotes the nationality of a company ) Mojang is a subsidiary of Microsoft... so despite the fact that it was independantly created and swSwedish it doesn't counte anymore. I'm dubious for Embracer group, they appear to have been a subsidiary at some point King is woned by Activision Blizzard... so it's like Mojang. doesn't count, especially with an HQ in Malta. Stillfront is OK. But that's just another Swedish one. EA is well, an EA subsidiary, Don't count. Paradox Interractive is OK, but that's yet another Swedish one. G5 seems ok also, and again Swedish. Ubisoft is French... the fact tha tthey have a Swedish subsidiary doesn't make it a Swedish company. None are Norwegian...

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #62 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Dec 7^th, 2020 at 1:28pm: Mojang is a subsidiary of Microsoft... so despite the fact that it was independantly created and swSwedish it doesn't counte anymore. Let's not forget the minecraft was created by picking up the abandoned sourcecode from another game that was never finished and released publicly. That's always fun. Flav wrote on Dec 7^th, 2020 at 1:28pm: Ubisoft is French... the fact tha tthey have a Swedish subsidiary doesn't make it a Swedish company. ...is them being French good or bad, here? From your tone it can go either way.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Strake Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Evading a ban Posts: 6397 Joined: Jan 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #63 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 2:45pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2020 at 5:26pm: But some kind of good DnD game is potentially on the horizon now. Haven't seen one of those since 2006-2010(ish)!


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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #64 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	Strake wrote on Dec 7^th, 2020 at 2:45pm: Haven't seen one of those since 2006-2010(ish)! Nah, Planescape Torment was great and that came out in [quick Google search] ...fuck I'm old.


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Rose-tinted Goggles Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Nostalgia! Posts: 191 Joined: Jun 3^rd, 2018	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #65 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 4:04pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 6^th, 2020 at 5:06pm: OK. I'm not sure that the data shows that Lotro is the "golden goose". It certainly has more subscribers, but as far as revenue goes, they are much closer. 13 million annualized vs. 10 million annualized. Given that DDO has a much higher per player revenue generation, the argument could be made that DDO is more of a cash cow than LotRO. Regardless, at 10 million in annualized revenue, I'm not convinced that DDO needs propping up by LOTRO. Maybe the collective inferiority complex people have had about DDO doesn't match the data. Did they end up showing the numbers for 2019 in that presentation? It would be interesting to see how Covid played a role. Certainly with most people sitting at home all day from the lockdowns revenue went way up. The gap between ddo and lotro could get bigger. Still, ddo seems to be doing great.

	Update 1-13: The golden age of DDO rest wrote on Oct 26^th, 2012 at 12:53pm: DDO is still the old fat wife I have at home who I can't fucking stand, but we've been together so long I can't see myself leaving.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #66 - Dec 8^th, 2020 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Dec 7^th, 2020 at 1:44pm: is them being French good or bad, here? From your tone it can go either way. Just the statement of a fact. That's why you can't determine if it's good or bad... it's a plain, bland factual statement.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #67 - Dec 8^th, 2020 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Dec 8^th, 2020 at 2:06pm: it's a plain, bland factual statement. Plain, bland factual statements are bad, ergo you think its bad, ergo you are a self-hating frog.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #68 - Dec 9^th, 2020 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Strake wrote on Dec 7^th, 2020 at 2:45pm: Haven't seen one of those since 2006-2010(ish)! Pathfinder is 99% D&D, and people seemed to like Kingmaker (2018).

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #69 - Dec 9^th, 2020 at 11:02am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 9^th, 2020 at 9:44am: Pathfinder is 99% D&D, and people seemed to like Kingmaker (2018). Kingmaker is a lot of fun. The new Path of the Righteous that is about to enter beta looks even better. Some folks didn't like the kingdom management aspects of Kingmaker. I found it unique and fun. But it did become a bit less enjoyable on replays.


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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #70 - Dec 9^th, 2020 at 11:29am	Print Post
	EG7 is on a spending spree, they also purchased PGI the publisher of the online Battletech game.


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Dragonborn Shroud Slacker Offline Savaging the masses... one dumbfuck at a time Posts: 1243 Joined: Jul 25^th, 2020	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #71 - Dec 10^th, 2020 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 9^th, 2020 at 11:02am: Kingmaker is a lot of fun. The new Path of the Righteous that is about to enter beta looks even better. Some folks didn't like the kingdom management aspects of Kingmaker. I found it unique and fun. But it did become a bit less enjoyable on replays. I agree, but that first run-through was magic.

	noamineo wrote on Dec 24^th, 2021 at 12:04pm: Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy. OSeanessy wrote on Dec 26^th, 2021 at 6:03am: Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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HernandoCortez Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 51 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2015	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #72 - Dec 11^th, 2020 at 11:16pm	Print Post
	Wow, I'm surprised. Never thought this game would still be alive 5 years after I quit. Is the fat jerk still around in the forums?


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Dark_Helmet Wielder of the Schwartz Offline I hate you! Posts: 1176 Joined: Feb 14^th, 2010	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #73 - Dec 11^th, 2020 at 11:51pm	Print Post
	All I can say is "Creative working of the books". Jerky wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 2:53am: Holy shit, DDO has the highest average revenue per paying user out of Daybreak's titles at $65/mo. Guess that's explained by all the whales Flav wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2020 at 2:22pm: small line on page 15 : 1) YTD Bookings as of September 30 2020, 2) as of September 2020. Memberrs defined as customers who have purchases a monthly membership I think it was guy who did Trump's taxes.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9014 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Daybreak Games sold to EG7 Reply #74 - Dec 12^th, 2020 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	HernandoCortez wrote on Dec 11^th, 2020 at 11:16pm: Wow, I'm surprised. Never thought this game would still be alive 5 years after I quit. Is the fat jerk still around in the forums? Yes but we've since decided its unfair to shame him for his body.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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