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Moaners with 156+ Reaper points - We told you so!
Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:08am
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We did warn you what would happen when you bought all those duped boxes to get first time reaper bonus, duped XP points, duped Astral shards and zerged through the reaper points - that soon you will run out of things to play for.

And yet, here we are, where the motherboards are flooded with "Life beyond 156 reaper points, what next?" titles and people sitting in their high horses telling us to shut up while they don't know what to do / ask for even more character power (more reaper trees).

Most of them also completed their racial TRs, epic TRs using these boxes as part of their reaper first life bonus train so they are absolutely stuck. Some of them have completed the same in their second alts and some have wings in their other alts as well. Now they are at a point where they need more & more quantity of drug for the same high they used to get couple of years back but dealer (SSG) can make only limited stock and formula is stale  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 8:23am
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Yeah, yeah, yeah... you had your little say. Now go make me a sandwich.
  

noamineo wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:04pm:
Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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Reply #2 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 11:03am
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My opinion has always been that D&D is not about unlimited single character progression.   The game is better if character power doesn't have infinite growth non-stop.   Especially for people who want to invest 80+ hours of play time per week, using the most efficient methods possible to accelerate the progression.  It is fine if it is possible to "complete" a character and work on another build until new content/expansions come out, which will then create more to do on previously "completed" characters.   That's how the game worked from 2006-2011, and I enjoyed that era. 

I'm not saying we should roll back to 2011 entirely or anything,  A lot of the systems adds, balances, and new races/classes and stuff are cool.   I think when some people say they want a legacy server, what appeals from that era is the way the game felt the grind was manageable back then for a player without having to invest either 60-80 hours per week or a lot of $$ to bypass the grind.  I'm also not saying grind should never be added or that progression should ever permanently halt.  Games have to keep growing in size and scope, sure, but this one just grew in ways that made it too difficult for players to achieve without a huge investment in time or money.

I'd be fine with them saying that the answer to the 156 RP and triple everything PL character that is fully geared out is to start a new alt until the cap goes up.    

That opinion might not be super popular here or on the MoBo, but oh well.
  
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Asheras wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 11:03am:
I'd be fine with them saying that the answer to the 156 RP and triple everything PL character that is fully geared out is to start a new alt until the cap goes up.


I'm trying to get our static Reaper group to start their fourth favorite toons, but they're ignoring me.
  

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And some of them grinded all their lives, some of them have all the raid gear, all +8 tomes not from ddo store, 130+ reaper points without grinding reaper dailes at all, wings, all bank toons plat capped  (And yet less than 100 astral shards). Some of them log to the  game, say hi, look at lfm and press alt+f4 Shocked
  
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This is kind of the hole SSG has dug itself. They've focused so much on single character progression that it leaves a huge power-gap. For most players the very thought of starting over on an alt is horrifying. Its not the exploit's fault that its exacerbated a long-running problem.
  

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noamineo wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 12:28pm:
This is kind of the hole SSG has dug itself. They've focused so much on single character progression that it leaves a huge power-gap. For most players the very thought of starting over on an alt is horrifying. Its not the exploit's fault that its exacerbated a long-running problem.


Reaper points.
If they would have just made reaper what it was meant to be: a challenge without increasing player power we would have much less r10 runs. Not even mentioning the extra xp for running r1.
But they thought insignificant benefits (+1 dodge) for a huge chunk of xp will be a carrot on a very long stick and they were wrong, coz they don't play their own game. Or if they do they do it in god mode, they do not learn how to be effective at it. So people topped their trees much quicker than they thought it could be done. Huh

  
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Farmer wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 1:17pm:
So people topped their trees much quicker than they thought it could be done. Huh



Reaper introduced: February 2017

First wings: November 2017

First capped reaper toon: February 2018

Expectation for wings at endgame: 2019

Expectation for reaper cap at uber endgame: 2020/2021+

The top 1% will always baffle the devs, but seeing as many serious players strive for but have yet to hit reaper cap, four years seems like pretty good return on a game mechanic.

  

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Farmer wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 1:17pm:
Reaper points.
If they would have just made reaper what it was meant to be: a challenge without increasing player power we would have much less r10 runs. Not even mentioning the extra xp for running r1.
But they thought insignificant benefits (+1 dodge) for a huge chunk of xp will be a carrot on a very long stick and they were wrong, coz they don't play their own game. Or if they do they do it in god mode, they do not learn how to be effective at it. So people topped their trees much quicker than they thought it could be done. Huh



This is actually a common problem with MMOs. When Ultima Online first launched, they tried to make a mechanic where the players actions would actually affect the game. So for example if the players killed too many rabbits, the wolves would get hungry and become more aggressive. The system broke because the players went out and slaughtered everything that moved with much greater speed and efficiency than the devs were expecting. The difference is: OTHER mmos talk to their players to figure out what to do, even sometimes hiring those 1%s as consultants.

Its a very simple concept: the people who spend 16 hours a day playing MMOs aren't the people making MMOs because, well, they're spending 16 hours a day. The people making them, meanwhile, have many other things they need to be doing(but should be playing more. I remember when I was playing WoW, you could always tell what the devs were playing because that class would be overpowered.
  

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Gunga wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 1:47pm:
Reaper introduced: February 2017

First wings: November 2017

First capped reaper toon: February 2018

Expectation for wings at endgame: 2019

Expectation for reaper cap at uber endgame: 2020/2021+

The top 1% will always baffle the devs, but seeing as many serious players strive for but have yet to hit reaper cap, four years seems like pretty good return on a game mechanic.




Not arguing, four years is good, just saying, I think they thought it was going to be IMPOSSIBLE to beat r10. That's how much they have no clue about their own game.

  
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“Surely If I cannot brat a quest on R10 with god mode on, those dirty plebs won’t.  This will last us at least 6+ years, plenty of time for development of the next quest type!  Legendaries!
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:11pm
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No one cares about whine asses on the mother boards
  

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what the fuck guys...

Jeesus fucking shit. This shit gets me called to the principals office.

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People have worked hard and pumped a lot of money into the game since reaper started. Not everyone brought duped shards, boxes, pots etc. Majority of players in the 156 club were already quad completionists and up near 140-200+ reapers points before this whole dupe thing started, so that is totally irrelevant.
Unfortunately I've spent a fortune on this stupid game. It would be nice to continue working on progressing my main, however I now just use it to try new builds, reaper raids and spend most my time working on alts. What is amusing though are the the main forums, omfg these guys are another form of total opinionated retardation.  Cheesy

  
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Cripey wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:11pm:
No one cares about whine asses on the mother boards

If there were true, DDO would still have a lot of fun builds that were strong for a while and were then nerfed into oblivion.
  
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 8:14pm:
If there were true, DDO would still have a lot of fun builds that were strong for a while and were then nerfed into oblivion.


Reaper XP nerf incoming
Grind early and grind often.
  
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Farmer wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 4:46pm:
I think they thought


I found the problem.
  

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With a Handle like that its a wonder OP would assume anyone would give a fuck about what she or any other Petri dish one-cell organisms have to say.

Reaper is a success for the most part and that's why there will be an inevitable 4th tree.

It takes a special of kind retard to think players ruin their own fun - a DEV kind.

Just like Flimsy telling us that "chain farming R10 Amber is baaaaad" and then nerfing it into the fucking ground.

His tiny dev brain couldn't handle the fact that "it is fun for the players who do it".

You sure you're not a dev in disguise? Maybe designing more reaper rewards is PITA for you now? ROFLMAO!
  

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Rast wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
People have worked hard and pumped a lot of money into the game since reaper started.


Grin


Rast wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
Not everyone brought duped shards, boxes, pots etc.


Sadly stupid can't be fixed... Embarrassed

Rast wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:12pm:
Majority of players in the 156 club were already quad completionists and up near 140-200+ reapers points before this whole dupe thing started, so that is totally irrelevant.


What they were in the 156 back in 2011? 6 years before reaper showed up?? wow and I thought I was an exploiter!

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HARDCORE!
  

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Hardcore_Girl wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:08am:
soon you will run out of things to play for.


you made this thread under the false pretense that u are smart, have foresight, and felt correct. however let me explain to you that there are multiple perspectives in life not just your own retard shit based on your priorities. im sure there are plenty of other opinions but i can only make an example of my own. I wanted to have maxed out toons to run shit with all my homeboys with. i wanted to have capped maxed out douchebags to fill any role in any end game content, figuring i would be able to rotate through all them fulfilling the needs of my homeboys in daily end game raiding and general game playing- you know, like gamers do. unfortunately people like you exist who ONLY insert dollars when a carrot is dangled in front of them so power creep and grind became the new form of content instead of actual playable end content, because skipping and shortening that grind for power creep is the only things retards like are willing to pay for. they should have never increased the level cap, and instead used all the shit theyve done since to add diversity to level 20 builds through unique gear and added a real prestige mechanic so people could take extra levels of a real class instead of fucking meme grind levels that mean nothing to anyone and +487236 ultimate slightly foresightful
exceptional unfathomable monetizable strength items. as soon as the game direction was such that having multiple main toons was unsustainable the game was dead to everyone except people unable to evolve beyond 2006 games who want to virtue signal the unwavering denial of their continuing sunken costs. The fact that 'running out of grind to skip' makes you feel like the game is over only proves you are precisely the retard i accuse you of being. the game ended when good people left. and the population of this game has been a downward trend ever since its high point- the day it released. youre just a fucking bag holder now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_in_video_games

i challenge you to find one game on this list that is relevant today. once u fail to do so, explain to me how ddo is somehow more relevant than the myriad of GOOD TITLES on that list that are no longer relevant. yet you want to pretend that people DUPING MUH DDO ITEMS is some fucking calamity lol this game NEEDS to die so someone can buy the husk and try something different while retards like you still buy into it seeing some value.

i however miss hundreds of frends who left years ago due to endless failures on the part of turbine or whatever they call themselves today. go fuck yourself gay retard.
  

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Shadehater wrote on Feb 9th, 2021 at 2:52pm:
Ah a new sock.  A GRAND one at that.



The Grandest one baby!  Grin Grin




HARDCORE!
  

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The Grandest one baby!  Grin Grin




HARDCORE!


I like this new sock. Its a lot less retarded than the other one.
  

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