Mobs ai to me always seems to vary with server stability.  When the server has a good moment,  the mobs are smarter. 

Maybe it's just me.  It's a thought based on only my memory.  But if I had to guess at things,  maybe something to do with pathing and server resources.

lostthenloved wrote on Feb 17^th, 2021 at 7:48pm:

Please don't get my hopes up. 

Hail my mechanical overlord!  You can't fuck up any worse than us meat sacks with running the planet.

No.. I tested it for about an hour.. this wasn't bouncing all over.. this was tactical

I started with a kob... I was light-crossbow ranging.. he was about 40 feet away. If I only shot a single volley, he would side jump it then jump back.. It did this repeatedly until I unloaded on him.. or something else tried to rush me... did that same test on multiple races.. but the only ones that did it reliably were Kobs, Trogs, and Hobs

5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 18^th, 2021 at 9:53am:

ZooperDooper wrote on Feb 17^th, 2021 at 6:05pm:


Do you really think SSG are capable of improving mob AI to make them smart?

I'm sometimes incredibly impressed by video game AI. I remember a late-90s space fighting simulator I used to play(heh, 'used to', still gets turned on once or twice a year). The game had an auto-pilot feature on the ships to assist with docking, it would initiate every time you flew too close to a hangar. Imagine my surprise one day while fighting an AI ship(which didn't have autopilot), my enemy very deliberately lured me into a course that took me too close and on the right approach to trigger the autopilot, then turned around and proceeded to blast me into pieces while my defenseless ship tried to carry out the routine docking.

I feel sometimes like video game AI back in the late 90s was more inventive than anything we get now.

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Its not so much that the hardware itself is prohibitively expensive as the scaling required. Keep in mind it was possible to simulate one or two nuerons on a single P3 from 20 years ago. Depending on exactly how complex you want to get it, you could run the AI off of a powerful consumer-grade processor. If you want more speed a couple of GPUs are even better.

The problem is... you'd only be able to do one raid boss at a time. Or have enough hardware available for all the instances of a raid(and remember that could easily be hundreds).

Then factor in that as the complexity of the server grows, the cost and skill needed to operate it go up exponentially. Right now, DDO is running on a stack of beefy enterprise-grade VM hosts hooked to a SAN. That's simple enough to park ata datacenter colocation and maintain mostly remote. Trying to add a couple dozen cabinets full of GPUs, IB switches, and more high-end SANs not only drives up the cost to a huge degree, it also means you have to start hiring experts to operate and maintain the system(and trust me, these guys do not come cheap).

At that point it would literally be cheaper to hire a bunch of interns and pay them to control raid bosses and play them.



Technically, you are still training a neural net...

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Well and theres a speed-issue with timesharing. MMOs work because everything is close together, low latancy. Trying to share out a part of the backend process to the cloud? Laaaaag city.

Sometime you should check out the concept of the "gameframe" - combines extremely high I/O of a mainframe with the serious processing grunt of a traditional computer cluster, Custom fucking made for running MMOs. Of course SSG has nothing of the sort.

Bats and birds! Bats and birds!!!

Just picturing what you described flared up my bat hate.