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Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Poetry! Posts: 605 Location: Section ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Joined: Jun 21^st, 2020	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #50 - Jun 15^th, 2021 at 11:52pm	Print Post
	I've got to give credit where credit is due... Those retarded charlatans have fucked up epic destinies far worse than even my pessimistic ass imagined. This is nothing more than a wholesale theft of power. Those drooling retards are already lagging us all out because they're already well beyond the performance ceiling. Now, they need to make room for a cap increase that most people don't even want. As far as Steel...er, Brownstar goes, his opinions have always been lame as fuck. They reek of some angry, beta incel that wants to ruin everyone else's fun because he doesn't get invited to the cool kids' parties. That undermining, maggot-ridden pile of shit is the *FIRST* one of those useless retards that should be fired when this game goes under.
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1204 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #51 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 2:31am	Print Post
	I took an extended peek... Was short 3 fate points because LOTS of destinies are still offline..... so can't really do a complete dabble.. but here's what I know so far... They are reorganizing the various types of feats.. and with my specific build, I'm losing access to 2 of mine... Also.. I'm losing about 40% of my DPS due to the loss of twists. With things getting moved all over and bumped up in power and their place in the tiers... I won't even come CLOSE to being able to take them now... this will suck bawlz


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1810 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #52 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 3:47am	Print Post
	Nothing like shitting on the fun of your remaining player base to keep your game popular.


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1810 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #53 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 6:11am	Print Post
	Oh god so many active fucking charges. I expect I'll just build passive, suck up the power loss and ignore them. Such a terrible playstyle.


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1810 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #54 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 6:22am	Print Post
	(Logged out and in, still no edit or delete, sorry for multiple posts.) There's a lot to dislike here, from the overall structure and design intent to many of the specifics, but if I had to pick one that pissed me off the most... it's Nerve Venom waiting until L30. What a kick in the 'nads. Steelstar once again adopting a passive-aggressive sneering tone with people with legit complaints or concerns is a close #2.


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1810 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #55 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 6:34am	Print Post
	Silver lining: they still hadn't fixed all the minor beneficial bugs in EDs. It's always nice to play with the edges of a new, shoddily-implemented system.


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somenewnoob Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 751 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2016	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #56 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:34am	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 6:22am: (Logged out and in, still no edit or delete, sorry for multiple posts.) There's a lot to dislike here, from the overall structure and design intent to many of the specifics, but if I had to pick one that pissed me off the most... it's Nerve Venom waiting until L30. What a kick in the 'nads. Steelstar once again adopting a passive-aggressive sneering tone with people with legit complaints or concerns is a close #2. Yeah the whole "your build must suck if you dont likeour rock starz changes" pisses me the fuck off. That kind of shit has my finger hovering over the uninstall. Shiraldi is a dumpster fire with so many of the good things level 30 now. I just don't see myself getting past these changes and continuing to play. I hadn't played for about 1 1/2 years when pandemic hit and I saw the free quest coupon thing. That brought me back. This will make me go. I get it, you want to sell us the new legendary destiny that will come out, you want everybody to play post level 30, you want us to grind out the new legendary past lives that will make up for this gut job, but they have absolutely gutted and destroyed epic leveling. This is so far away from "fun" that it isn't even resembling anything I will do in my free time.

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somenewnoob Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 751 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2016	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #57 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:39am	Print Post
	When I heard they were doing this shit back when we first got wind of the level gating, my attitude was, If I can still have a maxed destiny with my usual twists at 20 (like martial hymn, meld, and another on a dps build) then I will stay. If I can't have that, probably not. This isn't even fucking close to the "stay" condition.

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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #58 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 8:01am	Print Post
	somenewnoob wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:34am: I get it, you want to sell us the new legendary destiny that will come out While normally apt cynicism over their 'marketing model', this one falls flat. With their design to be that each Destiny somewhat encompasses a singular class (or in the case of Fury, covers the 3 'melee' primal playstyles) that means the remaining three destinies they're going to have to cover for are: warlock (lmao not even this could save warlocks at this point), artificer, and alchemist. That being said they could throw a curveball and combo Arti and Alch into a single destiny, and then come up with an OP Universal tree type deal, but I doubt it.


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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #59 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 9:01am	Print Post
	I saw they are removing Epic Resilience which I always thought was some punitive unnecessary horse-shit.

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Mattyo Dragon Raider Offline Rum & Coke. DO IT! Posts: 296 Joined: May 21^st, 2020	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #60 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Everything is way too incomplete to even test much for dps.


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Mattyo Dragon Raider Offline Rum & Coke. DO IT! Posts: 296 Joined: May 21^st, 2020	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #61 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 10:09am	Print Post
	Anyone see if this negates things we purchased for ddo points or anything like that? It seems the tome of fate now gets us a few Hp and sp? Seems really worth it..


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9241 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #62 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 11:45am	Print Post
	My initial impressions: Variety increases. Good. Power drops at low epics. Not good. Stats go down--but supposedly they are reducing saves. So, that might be no change No epic moments!? That's weird. Or, are they saving that for the 5th/6th cores? I don't love that. I HATE how SD doesn't have an AOE kill a ROGUE can actually use. Looks like maybe base melee power is up? HPs too? There are multiple direcharge replacements. Might be fine.
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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #63 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	Supremely unimpressed. These changes are disappointing and add a lot of extra ability juggling without adding more real fun to the game. I do think that there could be some reasonable changes where SSG says, "We really don't want level 21 to be as powerful as it is now, so we're level gating some abilities. Deal with it." and players could still be okay with the end result. But these changes are just hot garbage. Weakass abilities, melee hard locked into LD since that's the only place to get Dire Charge now. All of the Int/Cha/Wis builds no longer get to use Dire Charge effectively, so melee is locked into Str/Dex/Con if they want to use Dire Charge. No more Haste Boost in epic trees, so Paladins and Barbarians are stuck investing in Vistani if they want that. Lots of additional nuisance changes without getting anything that looks like it's a lot of fun in exchange.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #64 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	Its sure as shit not gonna be fine. Shifting ALL the ED power to lvl 30 will exacerbate the already massive issues with early to mid epics. We already know SSG is physically incapable of making up for it. With these changes I want to level from 20 to 30 like I want another hole in my head. Its not that its "too hard" - nothing about video games is difficult - its that its not fun. And "fun" is why we choose our leisure activities.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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somenewnoob Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 751 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2016	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #65 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:03pm: Its sure as shit not gonna be fine. Shifting ALL the ED power to lvl 30 will exacerbate the already massive issues with early to mid epics. We already know SSG is physically incapable of making up for it. With these changes I want to level from 20 to 30 like I want another hole in my head. Its not that its "too hard" - nothing about video games is difficult - its that its not fun. And "fun" is why we choose our leisure activities. Yes. When I was looking through my usual destinies, the one glaring thing lacking , was FUN. All the stuff I liked, is gone or nerfed or available at level 30 now.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #66 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	somenewnoob wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:06pm: Yes. When I was looking through my usual destinies, the one glaring thing lacking , was FUN. All the stuff I liked, is gone or nerfed or available at level 30 now. The especially retarded thing is the entire community has been telling them for the past year and a half "do not level-gate epic destinies, no one wants that". So they are deaf and stupid for rolling this out.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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somenewnoob Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 751 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2016	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #67 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:23pm: The especially retarded thing is the entire community has been telling them for the past year and a half "do not level-gate epic destinies, no one wants that". So they are deaf and stupid for rolling this out. Yep. They are just bound and fucking determined to raise the level cap whether people want it or not. And this hot piece of shit it one of the results. All the passengers said, Captain, there is an iceberg there I think. Captain said, FULL STEAM AHEAD!

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #68 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 6:11am: Oh god so many active fucking charges. I expect I'll just build passive, suck up the power loss and ignore them. Such a terrible playstyle. I agree with you, I hate brainless button punching and waiting for them to cycle out of timer to brainlessly press them again in the same sequence. Passive things should be the way to go, not retarded NWO button cycling.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #69 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	I guess you all know my opinion of the Enhancement Crash that occured years ago ( when they revamped the enhancements to create tres and didn't even bother to try to fit the old system in those trees ) This piece of code piss smell more rotten than the forementionned Enhancement Crash. I guess that after it they won't have lag issues with a good chunk of the player base gone to other games.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #70 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:53pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 1:47pm: I guess that after it they won't have lag issues with a good chunk of the player base gone to other games. While this is certainly true I do think its over-stepping to imply this is intentional. Obviously they aren't trying to drive players away on purpose. They're just fucking idiots.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Mattyo Dragon Raider Offline Rum & Coke. DO IT! Posts: 296 Joined: May 21^st, 2020	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #71 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 2:10pm	Print Post
	Soooo, what other games are you talking about?


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #72 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	Mattyo wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 2:10pm: Soooo, what other games are you talking about? I am half tempted to go back to World of Warcraft. I have not played since Vanilla and a condition would be retrieving my longlost character. But there is temptation. The next game has to be fantasy for me. I just have zero interest in sci-fi/FPS MMOs. There just are not a ton of options out there and it sucks.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #73 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	somenewnoob wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:34am: Yeah the whole "your build must suck if you dont likeour rock starz changes" pisses me the fuck off. That kind of shit has my finger hovering over the uninstall. Because they are incapable of designing a fun game. All their shitty work in their entire time working on ddo has largely been lazy, uninspired, copy paste, trash tier shit. We continue to play in spite of the majority of their mistakes, their entire career is carried on the backs of devs from 15 years ago... The build isn't shitty if only one ability is a keystone that holds it up. Rather the entire game design that they have implemented is so garbage that only one ability works for melees to have needed functional aoe cc.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9003 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ready for Ed preview on Lam? Reply #74 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	Its all-ahead stupid for SSG.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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