Here's an imgur link, incase the PDF gets taken down :

https://imgur.com/a/TrotsoV

With these astonishing good figures it's nothing than a shame that there is still a lag problem.
This is a "throw money at it and it goes away" issue, therefore: stupid stingy idiots.

I’m sure the pandemic was very good for their business.  As the economy grows and restrictions lessen  I’d expect that the numbers will dip.   I know my game time has because I’ve been busier and busier in the last 4 months.   

Munkenmo wrote on Jun 26^th, 2021 at 8:00pm:


yes it was. The whole thing was linked to and discussed intensively when it first hit. I mean, we here at the Vault don't claim to be financial geniuses, but it was an interesting discussion. We are all quite shocked that despite being the red-headed step-child of Standing Stone Games, DDO appears to be more profitable than LOTRO. If you look at the LOTRO community, they are treated with WAY less hostility than those of us who like dragons in our dungeons(pun unapologetically intended).

It is still an interesting read. Much discussion was made as to how EG7 plans to monetize these purchases over the long term. Obviously pump-and-dump is out, I say they are trying to control as much of the market as they can for smaller MMOs.

noamineo wrote on Jun 26^th, 2021 at 2:32pm:


https://www.playeraudit.com/trends

Seems to be quite a big drop over the last year.

Asheras wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 8:01am:


Indeed which suggests it's the same players who stay and play.  It's
like domestic abuse.

noamineo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 1:06pm:


Playeraudit's numbers are pretty good.  All you have to do is log in during prime time and count the number of people of logged in on the "who is on" tab.  Then extrapolate. 

EG7 was likely fed baked numbers by Daybreak/SSG.

noamineo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 1:06pm:


playeraudit's numbers come directly from the game itself.

Flav wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 2:33pm:


It has already been established that playeraudit counts anon players.

Also, I'm not really sure why both numbers can't be correct. That document puts DDO at 46k MAU (which I still think it's inflated as hell but whatever) and playaudit shows 370,661 unique characters over the last quarter. Assuming the average player runs 3 toons, 46k * 3 toons * 3 months = 414k unique characters. It's not that far off.

noamineo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 1:06pm:


1/10th? Sorry, but do you honestly believe that there are something like 4000 players on Argo right now? 20,000 across all worlds? Not sure if we're playing the same game.

Notanarc wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 1:45pm:


We're talking about a multi-million dollar acquisition here. EG7 is going to have had those figures independantly verified, not just accepted whatever shit SSG tried to feed them.

So what is more likely: a multi-national corporation that buys MMOs based on player data fell for a bad number? OR - a program built by some enthusiasts in their spare time doesn't necessarily have access to all the information?

noamineo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:


For a business, sure. But what's more important to you?

1. 2 million MAU. There are 6 people online when you play.
2. 10k MAU. There are 700 people online when you play.