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Nov 2nd, 2021 at 7:00pm
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Reading through the the U51 release notes:

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We are retiring Magister and replacing it with Magus of the Eclipse, a brand new Epic Destiny that focuses on Negative, Cold, and Necromancy spells, as well as weaving potent anti-magical defenses.


Magister includes the extremely helpful "[Spell School] Familiarity". Twisted in was the only thing keeping fire nuker barrable since the increased cooldown of meteor swarm.

There's a lot more in there but the entire patch notes can basically be summed up as "Fuck spellcasters, those guys suck."
  

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Reply #1 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 7:54pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 7:00pm:
Reading through the the U51 release notes:


Magister includes the extremely helpful "[Spell School] Familiarity". Twisted in was the only thing keeping fire nuker barrable since the increased cooldown of meteor swarm.

There's a lot more in there but the entire patch notes can basically be summed up as "Fuck spellcasters, those guys suck."


Man you need to get onto the new discord. The kool aid is strong there and pretty soon you're gonna start thinking this all isn't so bad.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 8:45pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 7:54pm:
Man you need to get onto the new discord. The kool aid is strong there and pretty soon you're gonna start thinking this all isn't so bad.


Fuck that noise, I don't even read the motherboards except dev tracker and patch notes.
  

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Reply #3 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 9:10pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 7:00pm:
Reading through the the U51 release notes:


Magister includes the extremely helpful "[Spell School] Familiarity". Twisted in was the only thing keeping fire nuker barrable since the increased cooldown of meteor swarm.

There's a lot more in there but the entire patch notes can basically be summed up as "Fuck spellcasters, those guys suck."



Holy shit. Was this out of the blue? was it on lamma or anywhere else?
  

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Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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Reply #4 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 9:21pm
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It has been known for a while.   Meh.  The initial focus is always on what is lost in these changes. 
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 9:31pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 9:21pm:
It has been known for a while.   Meh.  The initial focus is always on what is lost in these changes. 


Ah, well that's different then, Nomore made it sound like it was out of the blue. Thanks for clearing that up man.
  

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Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Asheras wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 9:21pm:
It has been known for a while.   Meh.  The initial focus is always on what is lost in these changes. 


That's because nobody likes having their toys taken away. Even five year olds know that. I guess that puts SSG at maybe 4.5?
  

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noamineo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 9:47pm:
That's because nobody likes having their toys taken away. Even five year olds know that. I guess that puts SSG at maybe 4.5?


That's one way of looking at it.  The people I respect are already at work on new builds.  None are pissing and moaning about what was lost. 

  
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Asheras wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 9:59pm:
The people I respect


Anyone respects anyone else on the Vault forum?
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 10:57pm
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doesnt one of the cleric domains have a mini dire charge?  I wonder...
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 10:58pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 10:06pm:
Anyone respects anyone else on the Vault forum?


Did I say these people were on the vault?  Maybe they are in discord. 

But yes.  There are some very solid builders who happen to post on the vault sometimes.  It is more rare these days.   Used to be the vault was a sting place to discuss building and meta gaming.
  
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Pretty sure I was told the first day I set foot here not to expect respect.
  

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noamineo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2021 at 11:01pm:
Pretty sure I was told the first day I set foot here not to expect respect.


Listening to the trolls was a mistake.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 12th, 2021 at 3:36pm
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Reading back, no way you really think that was the issue.

The nasty triple dip on spellpower, crit chance and crit damage is so much compared to this.

You can grab 4 dragon filgs, lose 2 DC and you get your cooldowns back. With new mob saves this is a non-issue.

Nukers being unable to nuke is the issue. The nuker to wolf damage ratio passed the red line at 1/2 months ago, and kept going down from there.
  
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Linker wrote on Nov 12th, 2021 at 3:36pm:
Reading back, no way you really think that was the issue.

The nasty triple dip on spellpower, crit chance and crit damage is so much compared to this.

You can grab 4 dragon filgs, lose 2 DC and you get your cooldowns back. With new mob saves this is a non-issue.

Nukers being unable to nuke is the issue. The nuker to wolf damage ratio passed the red line at 1/2 months ago, and kept going down from there.


Thing is I don't pay super close attention to the numbers. Everything is worse over all and those dips were definitely a bigger fuck-you. But I would have been ok with just... playing at a lower difficulty if the numbers got fucked. Actually fucking over my ability to enjoy the character? That stings.
  

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Reply #15 - Nov 12th, 2021 at 6:07pm
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You say if they just reduced DCs or damage you'd play a lower difficulty, but the longer cooldowns annoy you.

Why not replace the standard +2 DC filgs with a Dragon set, winning back the cooldowns and losing the DCs to play a lower difficulty?
  
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Linker wrote on Nov 12th, 2021 at 6:07pm:
You say if they just reduced DCs or damage you'd play a lower difficulty, but the longer cooldowns annoy you.


Well my logic is that the game should be fun, first, and everything else second. "Fun" for me is watching that meteor swarm arc. Obviously there's a bit more to it, but when I got my first fire nuker going(pre nerfs) I knew I had found my calling in DDO. Point is I care less about what's going on "under the hood" of the game than what I'm seeing and doing on my screen in front of me. I suspect that's why I play so many stupid flavor builds. I literally created a palemaster just because I saw one glide past in wraith form and went "I want that on my screen."

Linker wrote on Nov 12th, 2021 at 6:07pm:
Why not replace the standard +2 DC filgs with a Dragon set, winning back the cooldowns and losing the DCs to play a lower difficulty?


The short answer to this question is "Because I don't own Saltmarsh". The long answer is involves me going off and buying saltmarsh and farming the fuck out of it probably next Wednesday.
  

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noamineo wrote on Nov 12th, 2021 at 7:05pm:
[...about why no dragon filg...]I don't own Saltmarsh


Auction house is your friend.
  
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Linker wrote on Nov 12th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
Auction house is your friend.


In the sense that its the sort of friend who likes to punch you in the stomach, then fart and think its funny. But yes I was able to find 3 pieces that way and my gameplay experience is significantly improved, thanks.

It helps, but I would like to say for the record: taking out the cooldown improvements from EDs but keeping them in the new paid "mini" expansion is THE textbook definition of "taking power away and selling it back". Fuckin SSG.
  

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noamineo wrote on Nov 12th, 2021 at 11:31pm:
taking out the cooldown improvements from EDs but keeping them in the new paid "mini" expansion is THE textbook definition of "taking power away and selling it back". Fuckin SSG.
                   

And people say SSG is chaotic with no long term planning...
  
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Shunned wrote on Nov 13th, 2021 at 5:55am:
And people say SSG is chaotic with no long term planning...


LOL!

Point: SSG.
  

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Reply #21 - Nov 13th, 2021 at 3:12pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 12th, 2021 at 5:09pm:
Thing is I don't pay super close attention to the numbers.


Yeah, we know.
  

noamineo wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:04pm:
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